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Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by usef- »

robot_jesus wrote: post #62
mwigdahl wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

During the initial release, they indicated you'd be able to use Fable 5 as part of your subscription for a limited period of time, and then it would require usage credits. They also did say at that time that they hoped to make it a part of the subscription plans again at some point after that. For this return, they've extended the usage period to July 7, but limited you to 50% of your usage quota, and have not restat…

Personal prediction: I do think the market will essentially force their hand to include it in subscriptions before too long. OpenAI, local models, Chinese models will continue to improve. But, there are also harsh realities of compute volume and cost to run all of these will be fighting against. What I do expect is a multi-tiered rollout of future models. You want the latest SOTA release? Usage credits. Subscription…

I do think compute is the limiter here. It's a huge model.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by ygjb »

laurels-marts wrote: post #216
bakies wrote: post #190

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Really? This has never worked for me and I stopped using browser functions a long time ago because it wouldn't sign into dev environments stood up specifically for it

Wait what. I never used CC but use Codex CLI with 5.5 daily and authenticating has never been an issue. I even rolled skills that instruct it how to retrieve test user credentials for auth purposes. Today using the devtools I asked it to reverse engineer the login auth flow of another app in our company and it created a nice browser-like headless script (with cookie jars etc) that emulates the entire Auth0 flow with…

Yeah Claude does this for me all the time. I have a template project I use that also leverages puppeteer/webdriver/Firefox, and I can point Claude at the template and a website and it will happily build me an MCP service that it can use to interact with the site if there isn't an API or MCP already available.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by bakies »

laurels-marts wrote: post #216
bakies wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? This has never worked for me and I stopped using browser functions a long time ago because it wouldn't sign into dev environments stood up specifically for it

Wait what. I never used CC but use Codex CLI with 5.5 daily and authenticating has never been an issue. I even rolled skills that instruct it how to retrieve test user credentials for auth purposes. Today using the devtools I asked it to reverse engineer the login auth flow of another app in our company and it created a nice browser-like headless script (with cookie jars etc) that emulates the entire Auth0 flow with…

The fucked up part is CC has no problem looking through k8s secrets for credentials and authenticating to services on the command line. It's always been protective of signing in on the web.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by usef- »

0xy wrote: post #146
anotheraccount9 wrote: post #103

Not exactly. Every time I ask something using Fable, it switches to Opus. The subjects (and I tried many) seem to be irrelevant. Basically, I can't use Fable.

It cannot be used for ANY coding tasks, lol. https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072163884430229756

It can. They meant "some coding tasks". Not "all coding tasks"

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by NamlchakKhandro »

fny wrote: post #220
himata4113 wrote: post #194

I think this is as good as time as any to bring up that fable/mythos weights are one mistake (malicious or not) away from being leaked to adverseries or available in a random torrent. Imagine this, fable weights are likely distributed to hundreds of datacenters with likely thousands of people directly or indirectly having partial or full access. I just don't quite buy that a 'world ending' fable/mythos model would be…

Security has always been and always will be a game of cat and mouse. We all need cyborg cats to hunt cyborg mice. There's no other compromise unless you want a rat infestation.

Fido the Rat Thing

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by sajithdilshan »

dominotw wrote: post #213
SwellJoe wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't say "random models". The mentioned other models that are trained for the same purpose with close to the same capabilities. Anthropic's best models are very good, maybe the best in their category. But, they have direct competition. You can, in fact, just switch to Codex or Gemini or GLM. It mostly is plug and play. I have a preference but I also have options.

> The mentioned other models that are trained for the same purpose with close to the same capabilities. well they dont tell you that do they? there is no way to tell what model can and cannot do unless you extensivevly test it yourself and pray for the best.

If you don’t have a proper testing mechanism for your product, regardless of the model, you shouldn’t be shipping it. Praying for the best is not a strategy and don’t blame your lack of testing strategy on the LLM capability mismatch

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by brokencode »

fny wrote: post #220
himata4113 wrote: post #194

I think this is as good as time as any to bring up that fable/mythos weights are one mistake (malicious or not) away from being leaked to adverseries or available in a random torrent. Imagine this, fable weights are likely distributed to hundreds of datacenters with likely thousands of people directly or indirectly having partial or full access. I just don't quite buy that a 'world ending' fable/mythos model would be…

Security has always been and always will be a game of cat and mouse. We all need cyborg cats to hunt cyborg mice. There's no other compromise unless you want a rat infestation.

Yup, but apparently our cyborg cats can only be kittens and the cyborg mice are probably going to be like 4 feet tall. At least according to the US government.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by captainbland »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #124
logancbrown wrote: post #91

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Amusing to see OpenAI being the "good guy" in the end

They didn't become the good guy, Anthropic became the bad guy instead. The good guys are the chinese firms releasing open weight models.

There's no good guys, just entities you might be able to get marginal value from, who in turn want to get marginal value from you

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by andy_ppp »

Can we just make Opus 4.8 ish models cheaper, they do exactly what I want for 99% of problems certainly in web app development. I’m not sure what Palantir/Salesforce/agencies will do, really upset for these leaches!
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