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Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by anamexis »

wongarsu wrote: post #37
Avicebron wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's such a bitter "never let a crisis go to waste" pill

To be fair, the initial deal was two weeks of access to Fable, then you have to pay (or they might be generous and extend it, as per above quote). Then for everyone outside the US the second week didn't happen. This is basically that second week. The only slightly bitter thing is only being allowed to use 50% of the weekly limit on Fable

It didn't happen for everyone inside the US, either. Also I believe it was only available for 2 days.

Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by freedomben »

wongarsu wrote: post #37
Avicebron wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's such a bitter "never let a crisis go to waste" pill

To be fair, the initial deal was two weeks of access to Fable, then you have to pay (or they might be generous and extend it, as per above quote). Then for everyone outside the US the second week didn't happen. This is basically that second week. The only slightly bitter thing is only being allowed to use 50% of the weekly limit on Fable

> Then for everyone outside the US

I'm in the US, and I can promise you that it wasn't just for people outside the US that it was taken away

Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by skerit »

_davide_ wrote: post #9

"promotion" like they are doing you a favor just this once out of their goodwill... Really really really pissed me off

Before Fable got pulled, they claimed their goal really was to keep it around in the subscriptions in some way, they just didn't know when it would return. This time there isn't even a single mention of this. It's just "This is a promotion, and it's going away". Like how the hell can this corporation be so fucking bad at communication?

Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by yreg »

wongarsu wrote: post #49
user43928 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The wording on initial launch was: "For subscription plans, we’d rather give access sooner than later, so we’re rolling out more conservatively, in stages: From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost. On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits. If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included wi…

Everyone did get the first 7 of the original 14 days before the export ban. Now everyone gets another 7 days. Limiting it to half the weekly limit stings, but if you have a quota reset in the middle of it you still get effectively one weekly limit. (does everyone's quota now reset on Saturdays?)

> Everyone did get the first 7 of the original 14 days

It was restricted after 3 days.

Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by hungryhobbit »

Farmadupe wrote: post #15
mortenjorck wrote: post #7

From the original announcement last month: > After this point-when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this as quickly as we can. From today: > After July 7, 2026, Claude Fable 5 is no longer included in your plan’s weekly usage limits. You can keep using Claude Fable 5 through usage credits, which let you pay for usage beyond what…

Is it too cynical to read the first quote as "when openai catch up, we will restore fable 5 to subscription plans"? In other words, they're saying "We know have a monopoloy and we will take all of your money until someone offers a cheaper competing product"? And "We intend to do this as quickly as we can" read as a non-promise then as much as it does now? --- Well, I am assuming that this is all based on the fact tha…

You should actually be even more cynical!

See the link to Reddit in my comment below for more details, but the TLDR is that (as a programmer) even when you use Mythos ... Mythos will hand the work off to Opus!

Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by skerit »

hungryhobbit wrote: post #48

This is all marketing BS: FABLE IS NOT BACK (for programmers at least)! See https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ukcmji/fable_is_... Anthropic switches you back to Opus whenever you code! But what I find truly offensive is that there's no mention of that anywhere in the page linked above. That page makes the "grand gesture" of supposedly giving away free Fable ... when no such thing is happening (again, at lea…

That's not true, but it's their own fault for being so utterly terrible at communication. It only drops back to Opus for some prompts, just like before. The longer blogpost was a bit less vague about this.

Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by hungryhobbit »

skerit wrote: post #56
hungryhobbit wrote: post #48

This is all marketing BS: FABLE IS NOT BACK (for programmers at least)! See https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ukcmji/fable_is_... Anthropic switches you back to Opus whenever you code! But what I find truly offensive is that there's no mention of that anywhere in the page linked above. That page makes the "grand gesture" of supposedly giving away free Fable ... when no such thing is happening (again, at lea…

That's not true, but it's their own fault for being so utterly terrible at communication. It only drops back to Opus for some prompts, just like before. The longer blogpost was a bit less vague about this.

Did you read link?

>In the near term, some routine tasks like coding and debugging will fallback to Opus 4.8

Those are Anthropic's words, not mine (although, again, they do not appear anywhere in the page where they magnanimously offer everyone "free Fable"!

Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by gck1 »

Since Anthropic has eroded all the trust it could possibly have, I'm going to allow myself to be cynical and say that this move is just another pillar of their shady marketing practices.

I know a few real persons who will praise Fable solely because it's scarce and unavailable to them. Heck, they've already been doing that in the past month, as if Fable allowed them to do unimaginable things.

And once this play has done its job, Anthropic is going to come as a savior and put it back into subscription, driving even more hysteria and visibility.

There's probably a name for this tactic in some marketing playbook which I'm unaware of.

Re: Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access

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Post by gAI »

hungryhobbit wrote: post #55
Farmadupe wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it too cynical to read the first quote as "when openai catch up, we will restore fable 5 to subscription plans"? In other words, they're saying "We know have a monopoloy and we will take all of your money until someone offers a cheaper competing product"? And "We intend to do this as quickly as we can" read as a non-promise then as much as it does now? --- Well, I am assuming that this is all based on the fact tha…

You should actually be even more cynical! See the link to Reddit in my comment below for more details, but the TLDR is that (as a programmer) even when you use Mythos ... Mythos will hand the work off to Opus !

Eh, I have yet to get safety-switched from Fable to Opus. Your mileage may vary.
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