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Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Maybe, for some projects, instead of generating code with it, it would be useful to generate a plan and the loop(tests/formal verification),because those take much less tokens than a full project, and than use the loop using the older models ?

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Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Yes: > After July 7, 2026, Claude Fable 5 is no longer included in your plan’s weekly usage limits. You can keep using Claude Fable 5 through usage credits, which let you pay for usage beyond what your plan includes. Learn more about using usage credits. I'm not sure what this means in the long run. Either Fable 5 might become part of the subscription again once stronger models become available or Anthropic's compute…

There will be an Opus 5 though.

If Fable becomes "API priced", I'm going to switch from Claude Code to some other harness.

My loop will switch from "100% Anthropic subscription" to "10% occasional Anthropic API credits + 90% Chinese models".

This is the moment American models sink or swim. If they switch to API pricing, I'm adding Chinese models into the mix.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#73
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There will be an Opus 5 though.

If Fable becomes "API priced", I'm going to switch from Claude Code to some other harness. My loop will switch from "100% Anthropic subscription" to "10% occasional Anthropic API credits + 90% Chinese models". This is the moment American models sink or swim. If they switch to API pricing, I'm adding Chinese models into the mix.

I think "Fable 5 makes a detailed plan, GLM 5.2 implements it" is an absolute killer combo.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#74

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> So my customers will face a new wave of refreshed screens all over the place in coming days How do you determine the changes to make? Do you A/B test? How do you measure success? What is your product? How many customers do you have?

My product is AuditBadger.com - it's an AI-assisted compliance management platform (ISO27001 & SOC2) that guides you through the whole process (with everything a small business might want from such software). Having a few dozen customers allows me to still care about them personally and do onboarding for each and every one of them. During those onboardings, catch-ups, or weekly calls, I see where they struggle. This…

Site does look great. I’ve not used Claude Design. How much do you feel like you were able to give your own personal touch to it?

I ask as I see many vibe coded products that look well but are very generic. It signals vapourware to me. But honestly your site looks a cut above. Do you have a design background?

Also is the design system you mentioned public?

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#76

I am only a casual Clause (Pro) user and I am confused by the messaging, maybe I'm missing something obvious. > Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. Does this mean that being able to use Fable on my subscription is a time-limited promotion? I have a subscription, why can't I just... use the model? Is it the case that going forward a subscription will only give you access t…

That didn't take long...

  Dynamic workflow "Multi-lens review of docs/membership-and-friends-model.md with adversarial verification" completed · 25m 59s

  You've reached your Fable 5 limit

  You've used your included Fable 5 usage for this week. Continuing on Fable 5 uses usage credits

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#77
post #26

Maybe, for some projects, instead of generating code with it, it would be useful to generate a plan and the loop(tests/formal verification),because those take much less tokens than a full project, and than use the loop using the older models ?

This is the goal behind Devin Fusion, pretty good results so far I think.

https://cognition.com/blog/devin-fusion

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#78
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This self-promotion is not relevant to the discussion.

Wrong, it sure is relevant because it was ported with Fable 5. Did you even read my post?

Also just a suggestion - try not to hate on others so much, it'll make your life more pleasant!

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#79
I keep getting this error mid agent loop: "Error: claude-fable-5 is temporarily unavailable"

Planning went well, started working on the code, reading the code - all went fine

But when it started writing the code or executing the bash, sarted tetting lots of these errors

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#80
I'll be using it tonight but grudgingly so. Grudgingly because after July 7th, I'm not going to all of a sudden, start paying API prices (and maybe that's the problem) when I'm used to a subscription that gives me multiples in comparative value. Perhaps this is the fabled "token economics will come for everyone this year" that I've been reading about? In any case, I'll use the hell out of it to extract as much as I can, then back to the trusted partners Opus 4.6 and Sonnet 4.6 (for however long they remain available).
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