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Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by gregw134 »

JoshGlazebrook wrote: post #23
ceejayoz wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only for the next week. > Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits.

Right, but originally they announced a period of time it was included in plans, and then they were "working hard" to extend the period and eventually make it a permanent fixture of the plans.

I'd imagine they want to do price segmentation. Sell the best model for $50k a year to corporations willing to pay full price, keep the rest of us on a lower tier. Gotta pay for that infra somehow.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by [deleted] »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #27

I am only a casual Clause (Pro) user and I am confused by the messaging, maybe I'm missing something obvious. > Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. Does this mean that being able to use Fable on my subscription is a time-limited promotion? I have a subscription, why can't I just... use the model? Is it the case that going forward a subscription will only give you access t…

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Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by kube-system »

recursive wrote: post #12
cevn wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

twitter? are u sure it's not ur corporate?

Update: It is my company's middleware box. I'm not sure why I'm not seeing this flagged on other sites. Update2: They're blocking all (not HN!) social media now because someone got catfished on whatsapp or something.

those MITM firewalls can have different configurations for different sites

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by hagbarth »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #27

I am only a casual Clause (Pro) user and I am confused by the messaging, maybe I'm missing something obvious. > Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. Does this mean that being able to use Fable on my subscription is a time-limited promotion? I have a subscription, why can't I just... use the model? Is it the case that going forward a subscription will only give you access t…

No you will still get access to newer models on the subscription. You should have access to Sonnet 5, which is new. It's just Mythos class models that are API only.

For now... You never know with these companies.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by matheusmoreira »

aliasxneo wrote: post #6

> Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. If you hit your limit, you can continue on Fable 5 with usage credits. Fable 5 draws down usage faster than Opus 4.8. This is what I see in my Claude Code terminal. I don't feel like that 50% rule was there before?

They didn't reset the usage either! Good luck!

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by mwigdahl »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #27

I am only a casual Clause (Pro) user and I am confused by the messaging, maybe I'm missing something obvious. > Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. Does this mean that being able to use Fable on my subscription is a time-limited promotion? I have a subscription, why can't I just... use the model? Is it the case that going forward a subscription will only give you access t…

During the initial release, they indicated you'd be able to use Fable 5 as part of your subscription for a limited period of time, and then it would require usage credits. They also did say at that time that they hoped to make it a part of the subscription plans again at some point after that.

For this return, they've extended the usage period to July 7, but limited you to 50% of your usage quota, and have not restated the desire to make it permanently part of the subscription plans at some point.

I still have hope, but it's not moving in the right direction to be sure.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by Congeec »

petra wrote: post #26

Maybe, for some projects, instead of generating code with it, it would be useful to generate a plan and the loop(tests/formal verification),because those take much less tokens than a full project, and than use the loop using the older models ?

Yes, I've been using Opus to write a plan and fanout sonnet subagents to implement it. Cheaper and faster

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by nonethewiser »

petra wrote: post #26

Maybe, for some projects, instead of generating code with it, it would be useful to generate a plan and the loop(tests/formal verification),because those take much less tokens than a full project, and than use the loop using the older models ?

Isn't that the kind thing its best at as well? Art least comparatively with other models. The more agentic stuff. Planning, tool orchestration, etc.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #27

I am only a casual Clause (Pro) user and I am confused by the messaging, maybe I'm missing something obvious. > Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. Does this mean that being able to use Fable on my subscription is a time-limited promotion? I have a subscription, why can't I just... use the model? Is it the case that going forward a subscription will only give you access t…

Yes:

> After July 7, 2026, Claude Fable 5 is no longer included in your plan’s weekly usage limits. You can keep using Claude Fable 5 through usage credits, which let you pay for usage beyond what your plan includes. Learn more about using usage credits.

I'm not sure what this means in the long run. Either Fable 5 might become part of the subscription again once stronger models become available or Anthropic's compute capacity increases, or this is the start of the subscription being phased out. It doesn't really make sense to pay for a subscription that's stuck on Opus 4.8 when other providers are continually pushing out better models.

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