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Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by throw_a_grenade »

not_a_bot_4sho wrote: post #102
someonebaggy wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Pirate Bay is considered one of the worst pirate sites now. Of course, if you can find what you want, then you can, but any piracy community will recommend against it due to nonexistent moderation (eg. against viruses), poor navigation, and lack of uploads due to them not issuing new uploader accounts for several years now.

> The Pirate Bay is considered one of the worst pirate sites now I'm curious. What are the best sites nowadays? Still torrents, right? I used to be in the know but switched to legit things a while back so I wouldn't have to explain how dad is getting Bluey episodes.

May I recommend the excellent “top 10” list maintained by torrenfreak and updated yearly: https://torrentfreak.com/top-torrent-sites/

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by bcjdjsndon »

charcircuit wrote: post #48
glimshe wrote: post #41

I've heard there's a service called PirateBay that offers movies free of DRM. Maybe people considering being Sony customers in the future should give it a try.

That's copyright infringement. They do not have the rights to distribute the movies.

Why do you think we all go there

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by Buttons840 »

Danii27 wrote: post #84

The honest product description would be: "You are purchasing a revocable license to stream this content at our discretion, for an unspecified period, subject to change without notice." Nobody would buy that. So they say "buy" instead, and courts have largely let them get away with it. Until legislation actually forces the word "buy" to mean ownership, this will keep happening.

I disagree. People would still buy that.

There's a dangerous path where the companies are required to describe these transactions as "rentals", but that wont actually solve anything. If we require clearer advertising, we're going to end up with a world where everything is very clearly a rental, and there simply is no option to purchase. People will still buy the $40 "rentals" because it's their favorite movie and they want to watch it multiple times, and it's Friday night and they want to watch it right now.

I think people understand the situation when they "purchase" digital media. They know it might not last forever. They do it anyway. They don't like it though. They would prefer genuine ownership, but it's not an option.

We either need to outlaw these long term rentals, or break up monopolies until companies that are actually offering genuine purchases arise. Or we could do both.

We need to regulate more than just the wording on the "purchase" page. This isn't just a problem of wording.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by bcjdjsndon »

infinite_spin wrote: post #94
charcircuit wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's copyright infringement. They do not have the rights to distribute the movies.

they don't host or distribute movies, they distribute torrents/magnets.. the speakeasy might be illegal, but telling people where to find one is not.

Let me just say, I fuckin love piracy, but it's more like a speakeasy that piped booze in from everyone's house into the bar instead of just keeping the bottles above the bar. Booze all the same though

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by quentindanjou »

mmh0000 wrote: post #21
eska wrote: post #6

It should be illegal to have others purchase what you as a company only licensed and therefore aren’t legally allowed to sell.

What's funny is that Sony has done this before![0] I've had a personal boycott against Sony products due to this. "The feature was controversially removed by Sony since system firmware update 3.21, released on April 1, 2010.[2] A class action lawsuit was filed against Sony on behalf of users, but was dismissed with prejudice in 2011 by a federal judge. The judge stated: "As a legal matter, ... plaintiffs have failed…

> In November 2018 final payouts for members of the class were sent in the amount of $10.07.

Gosh this is ridiculous

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by ahartmetz »

devn0ll wrote: post #51
bloomingeek wrote: post #46

Wait, people trusted a corporation and got screwed?!? Why, that's...unheard of!(My wife, bless her, has "purchased" dozens of movies on amazon. I warned her that when the amazon wind changes, she may regret those purchases. I got the look.)

I understand where you are going with this, but it also feels incorrect to me to blame people innocently "buying" media from a $corporation. What are people to do if they want to stay on the non-pirate/legal side of this but also prevent being royally F-ed?

I suppose you could "buy" and also get a copy off of thepiratebay.org - you already paid for the license. It is teeechnically illegal because the "purchase" agreement very likely doesn't allow backups, but come on. (Also, the uploading part of torrenting is usually separately illegal)

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by hn773746483 »

garciansmith wrote: post #26
mmh0000 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's funny is that Sony has done this before![0] I've had a personal boycott against Sony products due to this. "The feature was controversially removed by Sony since system firmware update 3.21, released on April 1, 2010.[2] A class action lawsuit was filed against Sony on behalf of users, but was dismissed with prejudice in 2011 by a federal judge. The judge stated: "As a legal matter, ... plaintiffs have failed…

Yep. I had tons of Sony games across the first three Playstation consoles. I was a grad student with a PS3 at the time and I actually used Yellow Dog Linux on it as a computer to write papers when my laptop broke. Then the update came and I chose to ignore it, but that meant I couldn't play online games. Soon new games required a firmware update (still remember putting in the Dark Souls disc and being stunned I wasn'…

Nintendo outright ships incomplete games on carts sometimes, requiring a day 1 patch to have the game in a non-buggy state (one of the recent pokemon games was like this)

And "gamers" refuse to listen to reason and assume physical copy = they can play it for eternity, when in reality, in 5 or 10 years when a server is inevitably shut down, they're forced to pirate. Nintendo does not allow offline patches.

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Post by flerchin »

garciansmith wrote: post #26
mmh0000 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's funny is that Sony has done this before![0] I've had a personal boycott against Sony products due to this. "The feature was controversially removed by Sony since system firmware update 3.21, released on April 1, 2010.[2] A class action lawsuit was filed against Sony on behalf of users, but was dismissed with prejudice in 2011 by a federal judge. The judge stated: "As a legal matter, ... plaintiffs have failed…

Yep. I had tons of Sony games across the first three Playstation consoles. I was a grad student with a PS3 at the time and I actually used Yellow Dog Linux on it as a computer to write papers when my laptop broke. Then the update came and I chose to ignore it, but that meant I couldn't play online games. Soon new games required a firmware update (still remember putting in the Dark Souls disc and being stunned I wasn'…

I joined the class action lawsuit and got a small check a decade later. My proof that I had OtherOS ended up being timestamped whinging on the ars technica forums. My ps3 stopped working shortly after receiving the check due to bad solder, which was I guess fitting.

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Post by itintheory »

garciansmith wrote: post #26
mmh0000 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's funny is that Sony has done this before![0] I've had a personal boycott against Sony products due to this. "The feature was controversially removed by Sony since system firmware update 3.21, released on April 1, 2010.[2] A class action lawsuit was filed against Sony on behalf of users, but was dismissed with prejudice in 2011 by a federal judge. The judge stated: "As a legal matter, ... plaintiffs have failed…

Yep. I had tons of Sony games across the first three Playstation consoles. I was a grad student with a PS3 at the time and I actually used Yellow Dog Linux on it as a computer to write papers when my laptop broke. Then the update came and I chose to ignore it, but that meant I couldn't play online games. Soon new games required a firmware update (still remember putting in the Dark Souls disc and being stunned I wasn'…

> the Switch 2 takes carts

I believe the switch 2 carts don't contain the actual game, just a license key. The game is downloaded on first run.

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