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Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

#112

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Neither does Sony (anymore), apparently. They still sold them.

Sony sold them while they still had the license with a clause that they could remove them at any time.

> with a clause that they could remove them at any time.

Then they did not sell them.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

#113

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The Pirate Bay is considered one of the worst pirate sites now. Of course, if you can find what you want, then you can, but any piracy community will recommend against it due to nonexistent moderation (eg. against viruses), poor navigation, and lack of uploads due to them not issuing new uploader accounts for several years now.

> The Pirate Bay is considered one of the worst pirate sites now I'm curious. What are the best sites nowadays? Still torrents, right? I used to be in the know but switched to legit things a while back so I wouldn't have to explain how dad is getting Bluey episodes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1337x

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

#114

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Yep. I had tons of Sony games across the first three Playstation consoles. I was a grad student with a PS3 at the time and I actually used Yellow Dog Linux on it as a computer to write papers when my laptop broke. Then the update came and I chose to ignore it, but that meant I couldn't play online games. Soon new games required a firmware update (still remember putting in the Dark Souls disc and being stunned I wasn'…

Kinda. On Steam I can still play games I bought 18 years ago. Still walled garden, but they act way better.

Valve is in a funny position now. They lived long enough to see every one of Sony and XBOX's moats dry up by being pro-consumer where possible, but with Steam as the leader of a fungible game distribution market it may no longer make good business sense to continue to act so benevolently.

We've reached a sort of gaming singularity where nearly every video game can be run on any hardware you choose or be streamed over the network to a thin client. PlayStation and XBOX consoles are basically dedicated gaming PCs that can only run Sony or Microsoft's version of Steam. DirectX is losing ground too thanks to Proton and Vulkan, so Microsoft won't have the last laugh there either. If Valve controls the store you purchase games from, the software which runs the games, and the operating system running the software, they are an ODM contract away from becoming Sony's PlayStation division, and look where they are now.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Studio Canal directly got paid for each individual purchase. It isn't all on Sony, Studio Canal sold a product then took it away.

They're both to blame. Studio Canal insisted on a licensing agreement that works this way, and Sony agreed to it to sell their content. For Sony, the correct move here would have been to not list Studio Canal titles in the first place, and put out a very public statement saying that they aren't being listed until Studio Canal agrees to make purchased licenses perpetual as they should be.

> Both to blame

IANAL but I think the US law approach is to rely on chaining, so the #1 blame is on Sony until Sony proves it isn't.

1. Consumers who were damaged sue Sony for damages.

2. If Sony loses, Sony sues Studio Canal for damages.

3. If Studio Canal loses... ?

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

#116
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They’ll be begging for it when they recreate the very piracy problem they were fleeing, but far worse.

Yeah. This time I'm not living the high seas. We seen what licensing ala Netflix and Spotify means artists.

*leaving

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

#118
This might have repercussions in the UK. There are supreme court where T&C have been invalidated due to not being advertised well enough. The more onerous the clause is, the more burden is laid on the seller to make sure the customer understands that.

I doubt most of the people who "bought" the film understood that they weren't buying it and it could be taken away from theme at any time.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

#119

Incredible timing with the news they are discontinuing disks in 2028. You will own nothing.

I keep seeing people whinge about disks, but I dont see the benefit. Most people dont even have the hardware to read a disk... How is this any different from downloading a file off the internet? Maybe its fun to juggle a bunch of disks? Right I should also add I'm mostly talking about PC here.

Rights management in a physical media world = I have the media in my hand (caveats for some DRM systems)

Rights management for digital media = companies remotely deleting paid content from my account & keeping my money / songs disappearing out of my streaming playlist / etc

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