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Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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They don't speak the same [proverbial] language essentially. Dario and the WH talk about this stuff completely differently. https://archive.is/9k7qt#selection-2001.41-2001.49 https://archive.is/dybOE

I'm fairly certain which side of the conversation I'd have trouble understanding. I have trouble understanding it all the time.

I frequently have trouble understanding both sides!

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Just let people use their subscriptions for Fable. Permanently. All of it. Even if it runs out at 10% of the equivalent Opus use. Let people choose, there’s nothing to be gained by not allowing users to exhaust their subscriptions rapidly on this other than ill will.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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I assume what they saw during the first coming of Fable gave them pause. Lots of people I know were using it non stop to the point of serious sleep deprivation. I managed to burn 6k in 3 days on it, and was myself using it from the minute it landed till the minute it was shut off. (Yes yes, I know, I am just saying there were stupid people like me swarming the available capacity)

Would you be doing that without the FOMO?

I would be doing the same thing with opus or gpt-5.5 -- project in crunch phase. But I really did enjoy Fable. Not sure if it was worth the premium, probably, but it offered great design help.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Here's a copy of the letter that Commerce sent to Anthropic (note who it'a NOT addressed to...) Source: https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2072103733715194048?s=20 ------- June 30, 2026 Tom Brown Chief Compute Officer Anthropic 548 Market Street San Francisco, CA 94104 Dear Mr. Brown: Since the issuance of my previous letters, dated June 12, 2026 and June 26, 2026, Anthropic has taken steps in close coordination with…

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly, and we already asked you a couple days ago.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Nvidia GPUs aren't even the absolute SOTA for LLM inference anymore. Some labs are moving to ASICs and Huawei already have their own custom chips running DeepSeek as we speak. There's enough money and scale on the line that software affinity like CUDA is no longer the deciding factor and there's margin for custom stacks. Even more so after the USA GPU exports ban which is proving to have backfired by speeding up Chin…

Definitely hasn’t backfired. Exporting would have just sped up their progress. Instead they had to get clever and lean into the bottleneck which for them, now, is compute efficiency. This is temporary and they’ll figure out competitive chip design and production but not for several more years. It’s incredibly hard to match the quality of NVidia and TSMC, as China has found throughout years of trying.

I’m worried if west gets to ahead the best thing for C is to destroy the factories to slow down the ai.

If west ai is too advanced can take over the world. So better go to war now on a same level playing field than later when you need to fight against a SGI

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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I can't roll my eyes hard enough at all the people who say this shit about Anthropic every day. I know I'll get downvoted. I know it's lame to complain about future downvotes. I don't care anymore. Anthropic was correct in their assessment and early warning of Mythos's capabilities, and they did this rollout pretty well. They were not hype marketing. They were being genuinely cautious and honest. The Trump admin was…

> Anthropic was correct in their assessment and early warning of Mythos's capabilities, and they did this rollout pretty well. They were not hype marketing. They were being genuinely cautious and honest. So what prevented them from putting in the sort of safeguards they ended up putting in without hyping it for months prior as being so good, it's too dangerous?

I'm not sure what you're saying. They spent ages adding guardrails to Mythos. Then they spent ages creating a whole new even more guardrailed version of Mythos called Fable. Then they added tons of classifiers so API requests to Fable would get rejected even if you ask a question like "what is a molecule". They put the thickest layer of bubble wrap around the model of any model in history. And then just today they made the classifiers even much more extreme than at the initial launch.

If they were truly honest in their beliefs of the potential risks of this model, how would their behavior have differed? I would expect exactly the behavior we see, if they were being honest in their belief.

Also note Dario here saying they shot themselves in the foot commercially with how they handled the rollout of the model - you can tell by his reflexive reaction how ridiculous he considers the accusation: https://youtu.be/v1wZwxY3CMg?t=2103

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Something I am not seeing discussed is why the sudden reversal? Could it be Antropic promised NSA direct access to everyone's queries or something? Maybe an opportunity for admin officials to get in early on their promised IPO? I am not a conspiracy theorist but this admin especially doesn't relent for free.

They made the guardrails tighter. Tight enough to capture more false positive requests, now. Yaaaaay.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Not doing anything and avoiding the mania as much as possible seem to be a winning move.

Not if it prevents you from reaching superintelligence. Then you just become the defacto subject of whichever country gets there first. But hey, at least you got more regulation passed along the way!

If that is the scenario there is no way the EU, a trade union, can compete anyway so why bother.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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I mean, they did eventually get rid of the Danes.

The Danes colonised England. They never left but merged with the existing population. https://www.britannica.com/place/Danelaw

Not really, the genetic contribution of Danes to modern English DNA is somewhere 0-10%. There was some merging but pretty marginal.
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