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Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by babypuncher »

noahbp wrote: post #11
eska wrote: post #6

It should be illegal to have others purchase what you as a company only licensed and therefore aren’t legally allowed to sell.

Plenty of people purchase digital movie rentals from Apple, Youtube, etcetera because they know they will watch it once, and the lower price in exchange for a temporary license is acceptable to them. I don't think banning this is pro-consumer. It should, however, be illegal to tell your customers that they are purchasing/buying media without explicit "Rent" language (which implies a non-expiring license) when you do…

> Plenty of people purchase digital movie rentals from Apple, Youtube, etcetera because they know they will watch it once, and the lower price in exchange for a temporary license is acceptable to them. I don't think banning this is pro-consumer.

Many of these services offer cheaper rental options. When you go for the more expensive "buy" option, the assumption that you are actually buying it to keep should hold true.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by dopidopHN2 »

EA-3167 wrote: post #79
nullsmack wrote: post #45

We need some kind of modern equivalent to the old proposed Digital Media Consumer's Rights Act but which protects people's rights to digital media they buy. These should never be sold and then taken away with no compensation like this. We need a law that forces companies to treat digital files the same as a physical purchase. They can't take it away and have to allow people to resell and loan out as well. And in case…

They’ll be begging for it when they recreate the very piracy problem they were fleeing, but far worse.

Yeah. This time I'm not living the high seas.

We seen what licensing ala Netflix and Spotify means artists.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by nekusar »

satellites wrote: post #64
pgwalsh wrote: post #27

Not the first time and not going to be the last. Unless you can download it to hardware you completely own and can make a backup, it's not really yours. Online purchases I can get on with, like Bandcamp are pretty good. I bought the new Globular album on CD and it took 10 days to get to me from the UK. I also had access to high quality downloads. That works, these other models do not.

Bandcamp rules. I do still subscribe to Apple Music for cheap streaming, but for albums I really like, I'll spend the $8 on bandcamp for the high quality album download. Better support for the artist, and protection against license-pulling BS like this.

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Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by infinite_spin »

charcircuit wrote: post #48
glimshe wrote: post #41

I've heard there's a service called PirateBay that offers movies free of DRM. Maybe people considering being Sony customers in the future should give it a try.

That's copyright infringement. They do not have the rights to distribute the movies.

they don't host or distribute movies, they distribute torrents/magnets.. the speakeasy might be illegal, but telling people where to find one is not.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by mort96 »

NoSalt wrote: post #15

Ever since Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc. started offering "free" online storage for photos, ever since streaming started to be popular, I have ALWAYS extolled the virtues of µSD card slots in phones and owning your own media (i.e., purchasing CDs and DVDs). Many people would give me a hard time about this, calling me a Luddite, but I will never lose access to my photos, music, or movies ... unless it is the end of t…

I just wish it was possible to buy decent ųSD cards. Even really expensive ones sold in reputable stores die all the time. Sure they work just fine if your goal is to write photos into it, never delete anything and get a new one once it fills up, but anything more write heavy typically kills my SD cards within months. SSDs last decades.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by mikestew »

tartoran wrote: post #54
NoSalt wrote: post #15

Ever since Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc. started offering "free" online storage for photos, ever since streaming started to be popular, I have ALWAYS extolled the virtues of µSD card slots in phones and owning your own media (i.e., purchasing CDs and DVDs). Many people would give me a hard time about this, calling me a Luddite, but I will never lose access to my photos, music, or movies ... unless it is the end of t…

Why would anyone call you a luddite for advocating for MicroSDs? Of course the reason SD were pushed away (at least for Apple) was to offer cloud backup as the only option with no alternatives.

Of course the reason SD were pushed away (at least for Apple) was to offer cloud backup as the only option with no alternatives.

Except that no part of what you claim is true:

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/back-up-iphone-iph3ec...

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by nekusar »

firefoxd wrote: post #68

It is in times like these that I start getting messages from friend and family that asks: > What's the name of that website? I tell them to use yandex, they will find plenty of such websites...

gitflic.ru is the Russian Github that permits speech that the DMCA doesn't.

And yes, bypassing DRM is banned speech in the USA, punishable by criminal law. And there's no actual requirement of a company to claim DRM and defeat methods. The law is set up so they can claim basically anything, and its 100% backed by criminal law.

1FA is kinda a joke, cause saying inane shit like "Hitler was a good guy" is perfectly fine, but "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" (HD-DVD private key) is criminally banned speech.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

nkrisc wrote: post #81
devn0ll wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand where you are going with this, but it also feels incorrect to me to blame people innocently "buying" media from a $corporation. What are people to do if they want to stay on the non-pirate/legal side of this but also prevent being royally F-ed?

You can just not watch a movie. No one needs movies.

Nobody said otherwise.

Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by infinite_spin »

haakon wrote: post #62
charcircuit wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's copyright infringement. They do not have the rights to distribute the movies.

You're right, we should strive for compliance with copyrights and distribution licenses in our personal lives.

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Re: Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For

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Post by mikestew »

dylan604 wrote: post #90
pgwalsh wrote: post #27

Not the first time and not going to be the last. Unless you can download it to hardware you completely own and can make a backup, it's not really yours. Online purchases I can get on with, like Bandcamp are pretty good. I bought the new Globular album on CD and it took 10 days to get to me from the UK. I also had access to high quality downloads. That works, these other models do not.

Even if you have a back up copy of a DRM file and they have turned off the authenticating services, that digital file is of now use to you until someone comes up with a way of decrypting it. This is what Microsoft did with their music service.

When MS ended Plays fer Sure sales two years after they started, and no DRM-free alternative (well, MS said you could burn to CD at a crap bitrate), that's when I learned to operate sails and a rudder. I tried to play nice, but I could see where this was going.

I still make digital purchases, but at the first sign of friction, at the first indication that I'm gonna get screwed somehow, I leave port and off to the open waters. Fuck 'em, I played by the rules until I discovered that I was the only one doing so.

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