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"A kit for them" to do what?
To prevent the cold air from escaping.
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It's not the money. In many places you need to go through permitting to get it and they do not want to give it to you. Often you also need a signed approval from every person in the building.
There is something very wrong in the EU if installing a life saving window air conditioner requires a permit or signed approval from every person in the building.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
To prevent the cold air from escaping.
I see, all I found is a piece of cloth you tape around window opening though. I don't think it's doing a great job of insulation, and, paired with an inefficient portable unit, what kind of temperature difference can you get inside vs outside?
Enough to prevent death. When I was growing up we used duct tape and cardboard boxes.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see, all I found is a piece of cloth you tape around window opening though. I don't think it's doing a great job of insulation, and, paired with an inefficient portable unit, what kind of temperature difference can you get inside vs outside?
> what kind of temperature difference can you get inside vs outside? Enough to prevent death. When I was growing up we used duct tape and cardboard boxes.
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Some of the discussion going online, has asserted that heat related deaths in Europe exceed gun related deaths in the USA by some margin. If true, it has been ignored as a problem for too long.
You can't trust those numbers, though. If you get drunk and jump into a river and drown it's counted as a heat related death.
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> what kind of temperature difference can you get inside vs outside? Enough to prevent death. When I was growing up we used duct tape and cardboard boxes.
It really makes no sense. Death from heat is caused by the absolute temperature, not a difference. If it's 30C outside and you can get get 10C difference then it's 20C inside, which is not going to cause death per se so it's "enough to prevent death" but if it's 40C and you are getting the same 10C difference it's 30C inside which is likely to kill frail people.
[1] https://www.yahoo.com/news/science/articles/europe-heat-wave...
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
It really makes no sense. Death from heat is caused by the absolute temperature, not a difference. If it's 30C outside and you can get get 10C difference then it's 20C inside, which is not going to cause death per se so it's "enough to prevent death" but if it's 40C and you are getting the same 10C difference it's 30C inside which is likely to kill frail people.
I don't understand the push back and all of the excuses about this. Europe's heat waves are deadlier than American gun violence [1] [1] https://www.yahoo.com/news/science/articles/europe-heat-wave...
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They literally built a new hospital in germany without AC. 28C/82F degrees in surgery.
How? I thought hospital AC had the dual role of air filtration to reduce spread of bacteria and viruses
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funny take Bulgaria is one of the poorest EU countries and I have seen there way more ACs than in much richer Czechia or elsewhere, this is not about price at all heck, even in Czechia I find much more ACs in some poor cities compared to the richest Prague, I've seen bigger AC ratio per apartment in my small poor ~40K hometown than in Prague, in our 40 units building in Prague I was the first one to have AC, after ma…
More precisely, it’s the poorest country in EU and ~80% of households (highest share in EU) have _at least_ one unit (mini splits). Most households use them for heating also during the cold season. There are no subsidies and/or regulations around this at all. The downside is that it doesn’t look pretty most of the time (unless it’s a new build with infra for multi-split traces). In that context, this whole “europoors…
Neither does Paris with all those white hoses coming out of the windows and windows with tin foil glued to them. At least the Bulgarians have the sanest and most energy efficient option.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's up with the knee-jerk hate on EU lately?
The US is going to shit, and the Americans want to pretend everywhere is equally bad and it's not just them.. It is, of course, just them.