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The Anti-Palantir Manifesto

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Re: The Anti-Palantir Manifesto

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Post by hashmap »

cenobyte wrote: post #9

Europe and Asia have it much much worse than we do on the surveillance state. Ask anyone in jail for social media posts in the UK. Ask any Chinese citizen about their social score and how it's adjusted. So this sounds like an Anti-American and Anti-Palantir rant.

It has anti-palantir in the title, so, yes it is anti-palantir. That's the point. What about it seems anti-american though? The values this page opposes don't look like anything america was ever supposed to be about, and certainly aren't the values of anyone I respect. Even if this page is trying to do right by the entire world, it is about as american as it gets; to invoke the Commonwealth of Virginia since 1776, thus always to tyrants.

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Post by trollbridge »

davepeck wrote: post #16

My strong feeling while reading this “philosopher CEO”’s manifesto: consumer VPNs primarily help customers fight for their right to stream Netflix. This doesn’t strike me as effective advertisement.

I assume any such VPN keeps logs on me and turns them over to information brokers and ultimately the state.

Re: The Anti-Palantir Manifesto

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Post by trollbridge »

markasoftware wrote: post #8
drcongo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found it to have just enough substance to make me take a look at what Nym VPN is, because I'd rather not give money to Mullvad any more, but the VPN looks like something for shilling crypto.

Nym is pretty complicated and although they offer some kind of traditional VPN service as well IIRC, their main product is actually the only large scale operational "mixnet", which you can think of as kinda similar to Tor but a lot more resistant to certain types of deanonymization attacks (specifically it's designed to be safe against passive global adversaries, ie an attacker who can monitor every packet on the int…

The best thing about AI is how it’s pulled the rug out from under most of the crypto shilling universe.

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Post by spencerflem »

bko wrote: post #20

The fear of an imminent surveillance state just rings so hollow to me. It used to appeal to me as an existential threat, but then real world experience made me realize how implausible this is, not due to technological limitations but political will. We already have surveillance states. Walk into any chain drug store in the country and you'll be met with cameras tracking your every movement, deodorant under lock and k…

Haha I think we have a different idea of which 1% is making life miserable

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esseph wrote: post #5
drcongo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found it to have just enough substance to make me take a look at what Nym VPN is, because I'd rather not give money to Mullvad any more, but the VPN looks like something for shilling crypto.

> because I'd rather not give money to Mullvad any more ?????? Why?

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Post by camillomiller »

>> Unlike the generations that fought in the world wars, most of our current rulers are degenerate pedophiles who would sacrifice the well-being of the youth and the entire planet due to their infantile desire for wealth and power. Technologies of surveillance and automated warfare reflect their increasingly desperate attempts to maintain archaic forms of domination.

Tell us what you think, Harry, please don’t hold back

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Post by ecto »

bko wrote: post #20

The fear of an imminent surveillance state just rings so hollow to me. It used to appeal to me as an existential threat, but then real world experience made me realize how implausible this is, not due to technological limitations but political will. We already have surveillance states. Walk into any chain drug store in the country and you'll be met with cameras tracking your every movement, deodorant under lock and k…

All of your arguments are broad, baseless, and trivially disprovable.

There absolutely is political will to enable a police state, and history absolutely rhymes.

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Post by trollbridge »

lenerdenator wrote: post #4

> 19. America created the first global surveillance state, but it will not be the last. Too many have forgotten, or perhaps taken for granted, the revelations of Wikileaks and Snowden. States across the world from China to Russia are creating even more powerful global surveillance systems and propaganda machines. Leveraging private defense contracts in countries across the world, Palantir seeks to make itself the ope…

The book “IBM and the Holocaust” is instructive here.

These are simply tools, AI and surveillance tools included.

Tools can and are used for evil.

Some tools are much easier to use for evil. Tabulating and data processing is one of them. It makes conducting mass scale atrocity a lot easier.

Re: The Anti-Palantir Manifesto

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Post by bko »

spencerflem wrote: post #24
bko wrote: post #20

The fear of an imminent surveillance state just rings so hollow to me. It used to appeal to me as an existential threat, but then real world experience made me realize how implausible this is, not due to technological limitations but political will. We already have surveillance states. Walk into any chain drug store in the country and you'll be met with cameras tracking your every movement, deodorant under lock and k…

Haha I think we have a different idea of which 1% is making life miserable

I don't remember Elon Musk breaking into my garage and stealing my bike. But you never know, they never caught the guy.
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