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In most of business, there isn't rock available. You have to build on what's there and accept it.
Many vendors and service providers have SLA’s and contracts, at least for the critical services.
No AI vendor does.
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> Do you know how their human rights violations compare to, say, western nations? Yes, I could even say that the violations on the U.S. side have been more numerous and worse.
Then your humanities education has grossly failed you and you have not even spent ten minutes looking up what happens to Chinese dissidents.
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I love the asymmetry. When small fish tries to protect itself, big fish hits small fish with "It's not illegal" pole. When small fish points out that what the big fish is crying about is "not illegal", big fish has the right to be above the law to prevent the problem themselves. Having values requires equality. They have lost the right to cry foul when they trained their model with "but it's fair use" card. Life work…
Is China the little fish here?
No, the ordinary netizen, who runs their personal web servers, who are hit by crawlers, their content ripped from their hands and their servers chocked during the process.
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No fire, just people looking for a reason to be upset. "They didn't tell us they were secretly checking for ToS violations" is their reason this time.
It is not checking that is the problem, it is sending obfuscated information about the user without disclosure. That is unacceptable in any context, let alone a tool that requires an unprecedented level of trust.
I'm trying not to be flippant (let me know if I failed), but most tools with an online connection send back a lot of information about you, with just about the same amount of disclosure (somewhere in the EULA it says they may).
Especially if you play any online games with ranked or PvP, they are likely doing a ton of work to prevent cheaters - and this information is necessarily going to be obfuscated, to delay the cheaters/hackers in their efforts to work around it.
From Anthropic's point of view, they have a class of "cheaters" they're trying to detect - people trying to distill their models. Those people are of course going to try to work around any detection, so you can't send that signal in clear-text where it is easily detected and blocked.
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> This started a few months ago when anthropic started beating openai. From where I'm standing, this started a few months ago when Anthropic decided to gaslight users, sabotage their projects, ship malware and attempt a regulatory capture. If there's an anti-ANT propaganda, it is solely of ANT's own making.
> gaslight users When? > sabatoge their projects Again, when? > attempt a regulatory capture Yet again, when? > ship malware This definitely never happened.
Based only on the third quote (you're literally in the thread discussing second iteration of it), and your username, you can't possibly be acting in good faith here, so I'm not going to waste my time providing references to the events that were widely discussed even here on HN in the past 6 months.
Re: Claude Code is steganographically marking requests
#736The conclusion of this blog post is a bit hysterical. The intent of this steg is excruciatingly clear (identifying usage by Chinese firms that may be conducting model distillation). It's unclear on how this "punishes normal developers" in any shape or form.
So block people, instead of having false positives be secretly fucked over, and having them pay for the pleasure? Given the hidden model degradation of fable and now this, what makes you think this is where it stops? That's just what we know about and there's clearly a long-standing and deeply rooted malicious intent here. I've had Claude fuck over clean well documented code-bases for no reason, and there's a good ch…
So don’t use it!
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That's not correct. Many slippery slope arguments are perfectly valid and sound, namely whenever there is plausible evidence for the existence of the respective slippery slope. It can for instance be based on historical precedents, or on probabilistic or convincing balance of consideration sub-arguments for the slippery slope premise. Whether its a fallacy or not depends a lot on how warranted the slippery slope prem…
Give an example where a slippery slope is itself a legitimate argument and not just a rhetorical technique to oppose A using arguments against B?
Wars are sometimes caused by small acts of violence (e.g. at the border) that are mutually retributed, becoming larger and larger, until the hostilities turn into an all out war. This is sometimes called "escalation of violence." If wars are sometimes caused in that way, then there must be some wars for which a slippery slope argument concerning the escalation of violence is not fallacious.
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> I just don't agree that it's a false equivalency. I see them both as "tools I use to get the job done". For me, the job is not "writing code" - it is "deliver feature", "fix bug", and the accountability, responsibility, and communication that comes with it. Hello, Tom Smykowski. You have people skills! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNuu9CpdjIo
A lot more durable than software engineering in this day and age...
> A lot more durable than software engineering in this day and age...
Look at his actual description of his people skills...
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First its the "Chinese" then it will be people using "cyber" capabilities, or "jailbreaking" or "going against Dario" or any other thing they find "objectionable".
Their terms of service already effectively attacks people for criticizing Anthropic. It says that if you use Claude to criticize Anthropic, then you've pre-agreed to pay for their lawyers going after you, and pre-agreed to lose the court case.
I don't think that would hold up in a court. At least not outside of the US.
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> …they're not trustworthy. The CEO has recently started taking a stance against local AI. That must tell you something: local AI is the future. Or… just that open-weights AI is getting good enough to present a reasonable level of threat to their business. So it popped up on a SWOT analysis and they’ve started putting a strategy together. This doesn’t need to be anything more nefarious or untrustworthy than a company…
That they have a process for doing evil things doesn't make it less nefarious.
If we define evil as a company having a strategy to deal with a competitive threat, then many/most companies in the world are evil.