The constant hype marketing from Anthropic probably did not help in the end. I think that had something to do with it.
Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#522Let me guess, somebody magically set some huge bets on poly and stock market 5 minutes before the announcement ?
Considering Fable will be effectively unusable, while still triggering polymarket payouts by being technically available, I wouldn't be surprised if this so-called "restoration" was done entirely to deepen certain pockets.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#523The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…
All this will fly until a competitor from outside the US releases a “freedom” model that is even 90% as capable as Fable was without its shackles. But, as a frustrated EU resident lamenting a lack of European option(Mistral is just not competitive enough), I will spread my money towards the Chinese models as well. Thank you Murica! You achieved your soft power by pushing us towards the Chinese :-) This protectionism…
> as a frustrated EU resident lamenting a lack of European option(Mistral is just not competitive enough), I will spread my money towards the Chinese models as well. Thank you Murica!
It is interesting to hear a European exclaim they would rather depend on a selection of models from companies in China with concomitant strings attached, rather than be dependent on a selection of models from companies in America.
Isn't it better to simply stick to whatever is best and then, should it be pulled from under you, simply switch out to the new best model that IS available? I don't know that models have a moat and you can easily swap out should you need to.
Pre-emptively betting on which is going to be least susceptible to government intervention seems like premature optimization to me.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#524Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think anyone with a clue seriously thinks of GLM as Mythos like. It's barely Opus-like. The closest comparison is Sonnet 5.
True. But for how long? 6-9 months till Mythos equivalence in glm-5.4?
Depends if they can distill Mythos. They are creative, I think they'll hack a US company to get access to Mythos traces and do it.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#525Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, don't forget that we're only here because the clown-in-chief cut them off from GPUs - forcing them to make do with inferior hardware (and hence superior ideas). I have no doubt that any controls would only make China stronger.
Its like any other sanction, its designed to slow not stop
But it actually had the exact opposite effect.
First the US blocked China from buying NVIDIA's H100, but allowed NVIDIA to sell them a China-special nerfed H100, the H800
Then the US blocked the H800
Then the US realized that China was indeed accelerating their US independence, so does a U-turn and has now approved the H200 (more powerful than both the H100 and H800) for sale to China, on a case-by-case basis
However - and here is the real kicker - China themselves are now blocking H200 purchases since they want the acceleration towards Chinese homegrown solutions to continue, and now we have Chinese models being served on Huawei Ascend chips, with next generation Ascend 750 chips (using CXMT made memory) targetting training currently in testing.
Now we have Apple asking the US government for permission to buy memory from CXMT given the global shortage!
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#526Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#527Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would happen if they mass distilled one of the really large local models like GLM 700b or deepseek 1.6t?
That's not how the innovation works
Innovation is a pretty neutral concept. It doesn’t care about things like “what if my model learns from other models” as opposed to “what if my model learns from data I painfully curated” if the model progresses the same.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#528The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…
Who is creating business critical function on top of something that is for entertainment purposes only (all providers have equivalent clauses)? AI tools and shovel sellers don't count as they just can just push the entertainment downstream.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#529Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits. > The new classifier also comes at the cost of flagging benign requests more often during routine coding and debugging tasks. Here's Fable 5, the strongest model. Actually try to use it to harden your code and it turns into Opus 4.8. You have seven days to use it, and only half of that t…
they might as well not released it at all, what's the point of this theater and artificial scarcity
Perhaps the 9,999 fields other than computer technician will appreciate it?
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#530The real problem in all this is lack of predictability. The White House is just making it up as it goes along. Investors, customers don’t know what the process is and can’t plan. In the end, we need actual laws that tell the market what kinds of models get paused / analyzed, how long that pause can be, etc. Otherwise there’s no standard and it will be easily abused and prevent investment in US AI companies.
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