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Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#422

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

GLM 5.2 is the elephant in the room. GLM 6 will probably be a Claude Killer

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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All this will fly until a competitor from outside the US releases a “freedom” model that is even 90% as capable as Fable was without its shackles. But, as a frustrated EU resident lamenting a lack of European option(Mistral is just not competitive enough), I will spread my money towards the Chinese models as well. Thank you Murica! You achieved your soft power by pushing us towards the Chinese :-) This protectionism…

A lot of bitter europeans would down vote this comment, but saying Murica has pushed you towards China is hypocrisy is at its finest. Your incompetent EU politicians are the ones that has failed you by outsourcing every aspect of sovereignty to the rest of the world instead of self-reliance. You have nobody to blame but yourselves. In one year you'll be blaming China for abandoning the EU when they starts controlling…

Well you are not wrong, I would also add corrupted and cowardly politicians. We are in worse position than China, and under full control of daddy USA, no matter what they say. If US would pull switch, it would be catastrophe for the EU.

Even the premier EU companies such as ASML are heavily reliant on US supply chain.

But why can't we be bitter?

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#424

Silly me for hoping they'd actually honor their original 14-day promise. Per their latest blog post, they've generously slashed the timeline to 7 days, but wait there's more! It's now limited to 50% of your weekly usage: > Fable 5 will be available starting tomorrow, Wednesday, July 1, to users globally... Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available v…

If they really cared about their image among their user base and wanted to undo a little bit of damage they've already done via various policies and decisions, keeping the limits and duration the same as before the ban (or slightly being more generous with them) would have been a really cheap way for them to do that. Alas...

I hope that their marketing and developer relations teams were already off yesterday, and that they will have better news for us today.

OpenAI is doing a much better job on this, offering generous usage limits to users at home. They also hand out usage resets for minor issues, that you can even apply at a time of your choosing.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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> Mistral is just not competitive enough Does anyone know why? I was really excited when they emerged, but their models and targets don't seem to be quite in the same market.

Most probably lack of capital and talent. At the end of the day they have to compete with other giants for the chips to train the models.

capital and talent is the same in this context

there's no shortage of talent in Europe or France, it's just an issue of available capital

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #86

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> You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Yes 1000%, please, all my European competition please don't use mythos whatever you do it's total USA trash and the Chinese models work better anyway.

Please elaborate, I don't understand. Why is it good if they give their money to China?

I think they're being sarcastic (the implication being they want their competitors using the worse models)

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#427

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

The Trump US gave us (Europeans) the kick in the bottom we needed to get the head from the sand.

Like never we delibrate specifically on non-US solutions (objectively great) because we realized we are neck deep in US dependence. It is not that it was not known before, we just did not feel the threat.

This is why EU companies niw look at our own solution (which are late and will probably suffer from the incompetence and mess of the EU institutions) but another key playet is round the corner, namely China.

Trump managed to make us look elsewhere than the US. Thanks for that.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#428
This administration has damaged the US soft power. For decades, US was a reliable trade partner. Not any more.

EU is looking and charting its course already. Yeah, we can joke about it, we can mock it but it is in momentum already, one step at a time.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Mistral is just not competitive enough Does anyone know why? I was really excited when they emerged, but their models and targets don't seem to be quite in the same market.

Their target market is completely different. Anthropic and OpenAI try to build general AI that wins on all the benchmarks by throwing ungodly amounts of money at it. Mistral focuses on long term b2b contracts and their proposition is that they fine tune their model to your needs with an added bonus of 'not dependent on America' in a politically tumultuous time.

An so like if a business wanted to home in on one very specific use case that could be hyper optimized by SFT, had really good support for updating and adding new features, on-Prem etc. that’s the kind of market they are in?

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #83

I bet you that nothing changed with how Fable 5 is run. "Anthropic has agreed to proactively detect and address security risks associated with the models" LOL, this was already happening. This clown car administration just keeps making shit up and then backpedalling in a way that just leaves everything worse.

Considering Anthropic's most recent masterpiece of marking requests in CC they don't look much better than the 'clown car administration'.
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