Live data from Hacker News

Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

twitter.com

81–90 of 736 posts

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#81
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.

What concrete business advantage are you getting from LLMs?

Speed.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#83
I bet you that nothing changed with how Fable 5 is run.

"Anthropic has agreed to proactively detect and address security risks associated with the models" LOL, this was already happening.

This clown car administration just keeps making shit up and then backpedalling in a way that just leaves everything worse.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#84
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.

Nonsense. Do you buy state of the art pens, pencils, printers, paper, computers, disks, etc.? No. You buy whatever is the best value for the case at hand. That’s often not the SOTA option.

Sure but that's orthogonal.

Yes you use the right tool for the job.

But if the job requires the best intelligence you can get with an LLM, then you use that.

Taking as an assumption that the quality of your product is a function of the quality of the inference you are using: if you use an inferior model because "what if it gets export controlled again" and your competitors don't, then your competitors are likely to win.

If you don't need frontier models for you job then this is all moot, but the thread started with

> You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model

Which is silly. HN likes to roleplay bringing everythgin "business critical" in house because sometimes vendors mess up. Self host, don't use the cloud, run open models locally, built redundant supply chains in case of another covid, etc etc. Sometimes the risk is real, but most of the time the risk is rare and the cost of an interruption event is less than the cost of bringing everything in house or using lower quality vendors "just in case"

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#85

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

This won't age well. You just need to code in a way that has fallbacks. Whether that is to older models, different companies. It's going to be a commodity (if it isn't already).

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#86

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

> You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model.

Yes 1000%, please, all my European competition please don't use mythos whatever you do it's total USA trash and the Chinese models work better anyway.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#87
post #69
post #43

Chinese models brought the building down. are export controls the right thing ? Probably not. but the american economy is over-exposed on "A.I" - the capital expenditure, while the Chinese are proving you don't need to spend tons of capital to get close to the frontier. the Chinese have better building capacity & cheaper energy. that means the market has to correct at some point.

I trust Chinese companies with my data way more than the corporations of the 4th Reich.

[deleted]

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#88
post #45

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.

Unless you have concrete evidence via evals that SOTA is actually needed, you’re just buying into the hype.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#90
post #67
post #41

I see, so that explains why people are starting to talk about Claude Fable 5 and how I'm now going to have to buy $6,000 of compute for our startup

How to light 6k on fire.

Better than a foosball table and kegerator.
Post reply on HN