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Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

#31

Doesn't surprise me at all and seems like a good solution to the problem of human verification. It won't take long for AI to catch up to that, but this captcha method might hold for a couple of months. Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this. The alternative would be device certificate stuff (ala did Apple sign for this being a proper Apple device?). Having to shake your hand sounds a lot more privac…

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Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

#32

Is it weird that my reaction to all of this is that I am just going to drop these websites when they ask me for this?

Oh I wish! Had to solve one in order to pay a bill. The internet is dead.

That's like saying the roads are dead because people built strip malls and McDonald's everywhere. They're ugly and mostly annoying but there's still those roads leading to the paths into the mountains, ready for anyone who knows how to find them.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

#33

I saw a post on the GrapheneOS forum of someone who was accosted by Google with this requirement, so they are certainly using it. It's interesting the parallels of Google's recaptcha and Cloudflare turnstile. Cloudflare is free, no image selector, allows VPNs and Tor for the most part, just 0 click with a good ip reputation and 1 click with a bad one. Recaptcha is paid, trains waymos, sucks millions of hours of human…

> trains Waymos https://m.xkcd.com/2228/

https://m.xkcd.com/1897/

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

#34

With high resolution cameras, indefinite data retention and third party data leaks being a matter of when, not if, this seems like a perfect way to get your fingerprints stolen by organized crime syndicates worldwide. If not next year, then in 5-10 years. And when they get used for “something”, what happens when you go on vacation somewhere and you’re detained at that country’s border for a crime that happened N year…

I wonder if anyone has thought about what happens if and when Google (or others) gets bought out.

No firm lasts forever.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

#36

I could see this being privacy friendly if the user could see exactly what Google was using. For instance, terminalcam, gives just enough data to reveal liveness without necessarily giving enough information about identity. https://gitlab.com/here_forawhile/terminalcam

Well, create a virtual camera device with 120x80 resolution and give Ggl access to that and only that.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

#37

Doesn't surprise me at all and seems like a good solution to the problem of human verification. It won't take long for AI to catch up to that, but this captcha method might hold for a couple of months. Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this. The alternative would be device certificate stuff (ala did Apple sign for this being a proper Apple device?). Having to shake your hand sounds a lot more privac…

Finding additional ways to waste more of people’s time on the web isn’t a good solution to anything. Doing so in a privacy invading way from a company that has a vested interest in collecting as much data as possible, exhausting all utility from it and butters its bread in an industry which specifically is built around disrespecting the time of other people is just never going to fly.

Like seriously, if I have to turn on a camera to get through a recaptcha then the website doing it can fuck right the hell off with extreme prejudice. My web browser is not allowed to access my cameras for any reason, no exceptions.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

#38

With high resolution cameras, indefinite data retention and third party data leaks being a matter of when, not if, this seems like a perfect way to get your fingerprints stolen by organized crime syndicates worldwide. If not next year, then in 5-10 years. And when they get used for “something”, what happens when you go on vacation somewhere and you’re detained at that country’s border for a crime that happened N year…

I wonder if anyone has thought about what happens if and when Google (or others) gets bought out. No firm lasts forever.

It is not possible to buy a 4 trillion public company
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