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BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by prepend »

wil421 wrote: post #44
jonshariat wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a great example of how true this is. I wanted an electric car, I wanted a BMW for a long time, I tried to convince myself to buy one for months but couldn't get over how ugly they were. Why do companies destroy their iconic designs when they go electric? So sick of "space car" designs for electric.

For me the last generation, F-series, was pretty much e46 3.0. You can only iterate so many times. Neue Klasse is a bit odd but I thought the same thing about the F and G model runs. I’ll need to see it in person. BMW is dethroning Mercedes and continually beating Audi sales in the US. I’m surprised so many people would buy a car if they thought it was ugly. Benz reliability has tanked and Audi is lackluster as usual…

I finally gave up on bmw last year (after 15 years and 4 models) due to their reliability and cost of repair. I don’t think I’d touch them after spending thousands chasing down coolant repairs due to poor design (plastic parts, high labor cost location to inspect and replace).

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by pengaru »

jonshariat wrote: post #14
simonbarker87 wrote: post #7

It’s a shame it’s quite possibly the ugliest car I’ve seen in a long time.

I am a great example of how true this is. I wanted an electric car, I wanted a BMW for a long time, I tried to convince myself to buy one for months but couldn't get over how ugly they were. Why do companies destroy their iconic designs when they go electric? So sick of "space car" designs for electric.

My impression of new car design aesthetics is they're mostly ugly to me because they're optimizing for selling to a different market than mine (USA).

New automobiles starting looking Alien after China started buying more of them than the US, and it's continued ever since.

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by apparent »

strictnein wrote: post #56
tiahura wrote: post #11

Realistically $100k for a 5 series.

Probably, yeah. Wouldn't surprise me if it got close to $110k fully equipped. We looked at the BMW iX (which this iX5 replaces), and that was going for ~$95k, although it had some insanely good lease deals. We settled on the X5 50e. ~40-45 mile electric range with an overall ~450-500 mile range, and rather good performance when you want/need it. Total price well equipped was ~$92-94k. Also drives a lot nicer than the…

How much does maintenance cost? When I had a BMW, service was really expensive. Does the fact that most of your miles are on electric change the calculus? Obviously things like tires wear out based on total miles, but presumably some of the ICE-related services don't end up being as frequent?

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by [deleted] »

zuzululu wrote: post #50
klaff wrote: post #13

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The battery is warranted for 8 years or 100,000 miles and you are a simple internet search away from many articles on how long EV batteries are lasting (which is generally quite long).

i checked and that warranty assumes constant unchanging weather conditions in reality these cars get used in fluctuating weather that expand and contract the battery unit and put additional wear on them, there is simply no way the warranty itself is expected to last as long as they claim Porsche in particular have found out the hard way .

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Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by jerlam »

MengerSponge wrote: post #3
ryanmerket wrote: post #2

dang that's nice but what's up with the Elon's X logo on the lights?

That's prior art if there ever was prior art. It's just unicode U+1D54F

BMW doesn't seem to use that specific X anywhere else for any of their EV lineup. Even the back of the car uses a normal "X" character.

I think it's some mandate to give their car models some kind of "signature" headlight design.

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by brotchie »

malfist wrote: post #24
brotchie wrote: post #12

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I've done 234 Waymo rides and ~5k miles driven FSD in a Model Y (HW4), all in and around the bay area. The gap isn't that big. Tesla still needs supervision (most around navigation honestly). Waymo's have definitely done some really dumb things. Waymo's certainly feel safer but if I had to choose which was the better "human driver" I'd put it on Tesla.

I'm curious what is in your rubric to determine that a self driving car that doesn't need supervision is a worse driver than a car that does, by your own admission, need supervision.

99% of my FSD disengagements are navigation related: leaving it too late to merge into an exit lane (or CA drivers speeding up to not let me merge), not being aggressive enough at going into the opposing lane to overtake a stationary truck (though, it's a lot better at this in recent versions).

I can only recall one "oh shit" moment on an older FSD version when it carrier too much speed down a steep hill in SF and went through a 4-way stop and I had to slam the brakes. A lot of the strangeness / hesitance of previous FSD version is gone in the latest updates.

I don't expect self driving to be 100% perfect. I feel like FSD today is a 90th percentile human driver with super human reaction speed + visibility. Holding a "never gets into an accident" it too high of a bar. FSD consistently drives better than me (with the caveat of navigation: I know the city, I know which unprotected left turns are easy vs. hard, I know which routes tend to be faster due to local conditions, etc).

FSD is excellent in how reactive it is to thing you don't even see: e.g. car on the 101 at slightly drifts into my lane, I didn't notice it, FSD reacted. I feel WAY more unsafe now riding in an Uber vs. hands off FSD'ing in a Tesla.

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by buggeryorkshire »

We just bought an Audi A6 Avant Performance which is a year old and about the same spec?

Missus is a BMW person and really wanted another, but they were not competitive. I did a 380 mile journey in it at around 85% battery and it was awesome.

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by dogma1138 »

dcrazy wrote: post #49
apparent wrote: post #19

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Interesting, I find it to be more pleasing than many recent BMW EVs I've seen. I was preparing to not like it as I clicked the link and was pleasantly surprised. Don't love the tail lights, but otherwise it's good/fine to my eye.

It’s got Bugs Bunny teeth.

Beaver teeth

Re: BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range

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Post by ricardobayes »

jeffbee wrote: post #52
ricardobayes wrote: post #48

The real competition has 1MW charging. BYD has installed some of these chargers in Europe recently. It's really interesting to see the battery charge go up in real time.

1MW charging is a cute stunt but the economics simply do not make sense. The amount of copper and equipment to support that rate is ridiculous.

I don't doubt that, however they seem to have approx. 500 of these chargers across China.
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