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US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Doing business with the US is just impossible these days. If this trend continues any further the US is gonna end up a piranha state with no allies and no business partners. I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out

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Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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pariah: outcast, disliked piranha: carnivorous fish

> piranha: carnivorous fish Nice callout. Neither here nor there, but many (most?) fish are carnivorous.

I think the key difference with piranhas is that they eat humans. Most carnivorous fish eat other fish or water-dwelling creatures.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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This is even worse. For instance, in a medical university, we recently were told we need a smartphone and install an app from Google store (!!!), in order to read emails sent out by officials at the medical university. I protested to that but they had a deal already with the private company and their signature meant they had to keep on being addicted to that private company, so now I am locked out of receiving emails…

I don't know where you are, and I'm not an expert, but a job requiring specific technology typically means it is your employer's responsibility to provide that technology. So if they signed a contract that mandates you have a smartphone, you can use your own if you like, but I think they are legally required to provide you with one if you choose not to buy one. In fact in most cases, I think they should prefer that (…

They might be a student, in which case the rules might be much less in their favor.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Doing business with the US is just impossible these days. If this trend continues any further the US is gonna end up a piranha state with no allies and no business partners. I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out

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Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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The US supreme court is correcting the lies the American government made when they assured the EU and its citizens that they can be trusted with their data. It's not just the EU lying, both sides are awful at this. I don't know why the EU wants to trust the USA so bad, it's clearly unwise. It makes sense, because banning EU companies from using AWS/GCP/etc. would bankrupt the EU into a recession, but the way they're…

> The US supreme court is correcting the lies Nah. They are simply giving more power to Trump, power that he did not used to have and should not have. That is it. Supreme court is are advancing their own ideological goals and rewriting parts of constitution they don't like.

It has a tendency of doing so, but in this case the body that was supposed to patch over the requirements for EU data transfer was flawed in its design.

The reason this house of cards was necessary in the first place is that the American government does not want to grant foreign citizens the rights necessary to ensure the privacy guarantees the EU requires.

American courts deciding that institutional independence is bad now is awful for American citizens, but it's not supposed to be very relevant to the EU like this.

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slashing worker protections would do what exactly?

Tbf it could reduce hiring friction and make it easier to take a chance on a riskier hire. Also makes it easier for workers to change jobs, notice periods here can be outright insane (3 months in some cases) and even as an employee I hated them.

Is a 6 month probationary period not good enough to take a chance?

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Ban, limits, and regulation won’t solve a country with too many worker protections. The EU simply can’t compete in the modern globalized world.

Reduced worker protections -[somehow]-> better worker output. /s

Check Swiss worker protections compared to France or Germany and then check their economy and tech companies there. Biggest Google office outside the US is in Switzerland.

It's not better worker output, it's faster movement and pivoting to rapid changing market conditions as a company, if you can get rid of slackers that abuse unions and worker protections to coast and do nothing.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Switching to EU companies is often the solution, but also we're in a tricky position in Europe since alternatives exist but can't compete with US. So finding European alternatives is possible but hard. Also EU is doing its job enforcing privacy and anti-competition laws but then American companies just say "feature not available in EU" (like Apple is doing more and more for example), making things even harder to swit…

the issue with EU companies is often the mindset: https://julien.danjou.info/blog/europes-cloud-problem-isnt-t... As tech worked who has worked in US FAANGs (still in europe)... the difference is immense. EU companies simply can't compete and will never be able to compete until they change the mindset. And the change must be pervasive, across all aspects (including IC compensation).

if the EU furniture maker has the correct mindset and the EU tech company does not then it seems to me the conclusions fall apart

>European tech imported the product ambition. It forgot to import the customer obsession that’s supposed to come with it.

The French furniture maker didn't import the customer obsession. I agree that U.S tech in these particular subsets are better at the EU doing it, and that needs to be fixed but you can't really talk about how great U.S tech is when you can also point at thousands of horrifying lack of support stories from them also.

U.S Tech has a good mindset for replacing hardware when it fails, they have a good workflow for that. The idea that they have good support however should be tempered by regular reading of some sort of online tech news aggregator.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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post #31

Doing business with the US is just impossible these days. If this trend continues any further the US is gonna end up a piranha state with no allies and no business partners. I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out

pariah: outcast, disliked piranha: carnivorous fish

everybody loves piranha!
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