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US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Post by AndroTux »

bambax wrote: post #50
seydor wrote: post #34

The EU keeps trying to manifest the missing european data infrastructure via data regulation instead of outright bans and limits on american companies, the way China did it.

The EU should cut all ties with the US, tax US products and impose costly (and difficult to get) visas to American citizens wanting to visit. It won't do any of this because it has no balls and no vision. We're doomed and it's our fault.

They should, but the entire EU economy runs on US clouds. It's hard enough to get new hardware as it is (US hardware btw), so how should the EU, especially today, move to sovereign clouds within the next few years?

I'd argue every single EU business with more than five employees would be impacted by such a decision. Just pulling the plug would be economic suicide.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Post by barnabee »

jimbob45 wrote: post #40
seydor wrote: post #34

The EU keeps trying to manifest the missing european data infrastructure via data regulation instead of outright bans and limits on american companies, the way China did it.

Ban, limits, and regulation won’t solve a country with too many worker protections. The EU simply can’t compete in the modern globalized world.

The only answer isn't to sink to the lowest common denominator.

Ban or tax things from the "globalised" world that are just worker/societal/environmental protection arbitrage so they're competing for the EU market on a level playing field, then we'll see who can compete.

The EU is plenty big enough to be self-sufficient if it has to and shouldn't be afraid of risking this if abusive and exploitative companies from other places don't way to pay their way.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Post by mistersquid »

recursive-call wrote: post #35
amarant wrote: post #31

Doing business with the US is just impossible these days. If this trend continues any further the US is gonna end up a piranha state with no allies and no business partners. I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out

pariah: outcast, disliked piranha: carnivorous fish

> piranha: carnivorous fish

Nice callout.

Neither here nor there, but many (most?) fish are carnivorous.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Post by shevy-java »

So the US Supreme Court is doing here more and better for EU citizens (!!!) than the EU commission and EU courts are. Because the EU officials constantly keep on lying to EU citizens how our data is safe in the USA, which it clearly is not, even aside from Trump's brown shirts, the ICE snipers that have already killed US citizens in shootings. The world is a very strange place, but one good thing is that Trump's criminal gangster organisation has not undermined the whole US court system yet. And he is now too old and too demented to do so, so they will rally behind hugely uncharismatic losers such as eyeliner-boy "can't stop it with my make-up" Vance or "I change my opinion all the time" Mr. Rubio.

A big loser team.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Post by roysting »

vlian2088 wrote: post #58
amarant wrote: post #31

Doing business with the US is just impossible these days. If this trend continues any further the US is gonna end up a piranha state with no allies and no business partners. I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out

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Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Post by shevy-java »

manueltgomes wrote: post #49

Switching to EU companies is often the solution, but also we're in a tricky position in Europe since alternatives exist but can't compete with US. So finding European alternatives is possible but hard. Also EU is doing its job enforcing privacy and anti-competition laws but then American companies just say "feature not available in EU" (like Apple is doing more and more for example), making things even harder to swit…

This is even worse. For instance, in a medical university, we recently were told we need a smartphone and install an app from Google store (!!!), in order to read emails sent out by officials at the medical university. I protested to that but they had a deal already with the private company and their signature meant they had to keep on being addicted to that private company, so now I am locked out of receiving emails since for redirect you also need to have that app installed once. I don't have a smartphone though and I find it outrageous that people are forced to install it AND forced to use Google Store, for publicly funded (!!!) universities here in central Europe. Some lobbyists are currently getting very rich. I call it theft of taxpayer's money though.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Post by IncreasePosts »

recursive-call wrote: post #35
amarant wrote: post #31

Doing business with the US is just impossible these days. If this trend continues any further the US is gonna end up a piranha state with no allies and no business partners. I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out

pariah: outcast, disliked piranha: carnivorous fish

paraná: a state/river in southern Brazil
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