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Scientists find molecular-level evidence for two structures in liquid water

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Re: Scientists find molecular-level evidence for two structures in liquid water

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Post by aeonik »

hyperhello wrote: post #7
harimau777 wrote: post #6

It would be hilarious if homeopathy turned out to be right! (To be clear, I don't think that will actually happen, but it would be hilarious if it did!)

Homeopathic medicine is already recommended by 1 out of 1000000000000000000 doctors.

Homeopathy actually works great depending on what you use it for: I've been trying homeopathic vodka and it's done wonders for my health.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

aand16 wrote: post #17
harimau777 wrote: post #6

It would be hilarious if homeopathy turned out to be right! (To be clear, I don't think that will actually happen, but it would be hilarious if it did!)

Don't know about right, but for a while it worked better than "regular" medicine. At least it wouldn't kill you, when the alternative was intensive bloodlettings and purgatives.

> for a while it worked better than "regular" medicine. At least it wouldn't kill you

Homeopathy was invented after the discovery of germ theory [1][2]. So not really. And homeopathy has always suffered from an adulteration problem.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy

Re: Scientists find molecular-level evidence for two structures in liquid water

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Post by jiggawatts »

OutOfHere wrote: post #12
harimau777 wrote: post #6

It would be hilarious if homeopathy turned out to be right! (To be clear, I don't think that will actually happen, but it would be hilarious if it did!)

There is no basis to suggest that any product uses this property of water. As for homeopathy, it isn't one thing. The effects, if any, can vary greatly by the substance and the concentration. Some low-dilution products work and many high-dilution products don't. There is such a thing as excessive dilution. Anyone who is painting a simpler picture of it is almost certainly wrong.

Homeopathy is very literally the singular concept that more diluted medicine works better.

Saying that “less diluted works better” is saying the diametric opposite of what Homeopathic “theory” does!

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Post by analog31 »

harimau777 wrote: post #6

It would be hilarious if homeopathy turned out to be right! (To be clear, I don't think that will actually happen, but it would be hilarious if it did!)

While on the topic of weird theories of water, there's always Polywater:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywater

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Post by OutOfHere »

jiggawatts wrote: post #23
OutOfHere wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no basis to suggest that any product uses this property of water. As for homeopathy, it isn't one thing. The effects, if any, can vary greatly by the substance and the concentration. Some low-dilution products work and many high-dilution products don't. There is such a thing as excessive dilution. Anyone who is painting a simpler picture of it is almost certainly wrong.

Homeopathy is very literally the singular concept that more diluted medicine works better. Saying that “less diluted works better” is saying the diametric opposite of what Homeopathic “theory” does!

You're speaking of classical homeopathy, not practical observation. In practice there are many homeopathic products with varying dilutions, many of which have a meaningful amount of the substance, and therefore the distinct possibility of a biological effect.

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Post by pryce »

harimau777 wrote: post #6

It would be hilarious if homeopathy turned out to be right! (To be clear, I don't think that will actually happen, but it would be hilarious if it did!)

Homeopathic medicine is a discredited theoretical explanation for a phenomenon that empirical testing shows does not exist. For 'homeopathy' to be right, it would need the to become 'right' twice - first: new data would need to begin existing, and then second: the homeopathic mechanisms would need to become the most plausible explanation for that data

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Post by zer00eyz »

cwmoore wrote: post #9

Great to see progress on ice-9 /s

"I have been a writer since 1949. I am self-taught. I have no theories about writing that might help others. When I write, I simply become what I seemingly must become. I am six feet two and weigh nearly two hundred pounds and am badly coordinated, except when I swim. All that borrowed meat does the writing. In the water I am beautiful." ― Kurt Vonnegut, Welcome to the Monkey House
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