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Is there actual evidence of "intent of mass murder"? It seems speculative at best.
Enough to convince a jury of their peers.
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Chilling effect on demonstrations. If you attend one were someone starts shooting you become an accomplice. And ofcourse this also leaves the door open for a "false flag" incident.
Unless one is a right wing protestor like Kyle Rittenhouse.
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Just to be clear, the January 6 defendants: - were a group of at least 1000 people - who, among other things, erected a noose on the capitol grounds, brought zip ties and weapons - forcefully overran several capital police barricades intended to deter their entrance - used any weapon available including poles etc to violently attack any police in their way Granted they did not explicitly shoot any federal agents with…
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If you think those things are equivalent well then, there are many things I’d say about you but I’ve been told by the mods that’s not allowed.
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There's an ocean of difference between "moved some magazines" and "helped organize the event and explicitly called for violence". You know that, though; you're just intentionally missing the point.
You know what they say about glass houses and stones, right?
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HN is a collection of people with varying viewpoints and backgrounds posting arbitrarily throughout the day. There is no single position to be hypocritical of. The “Hypocrisy” you are experiencing here is just you having to sort through other people’s opinions and getting upset at the ones that disagree with yours.
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#167A lot of people in these Hacker News comments are accepting the framing that moving the zines is evidence tampering and therefore deserves a 30 year sentence. What crime are zines evidence of?
Did he move the items because he believed that they were evidence being sought by the police?
I don't really care if they are actually evidence of something or not. I care if the accused believed they were and moved them for that purpose.
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“That guy” had a name. His name was Alex Pretti. He was disarmed before he was shot in the head. He was not even holding his weapon at any point. Are you implying that simply carrying a legal firearm while at a protest means you can be murdered, without any subsequent investigation? Again the Overton window has shifted so far just in my lifetime. This would have been front page news with congressional investigations…