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If the contract has an end date then there’s no reason not to mention it during the sale.

You don't always know that, you can have an open ended license with an option to get it revoked in the future with some notice period. I'd be pretty sure that PlayStation also had that in their terms and covered themselves legally for that option.

> I'd be pretty sure that PlayStation also had that in their terms and covered themselves legally for that option.

Hiding behind hidden T&C should just straight up not be allowed. Imagine if you go to a store and any item you wanted to buy you'd have to read 20 pages on a book next to the item before you'd be able to put it in your cart, else the product producer may just at some time in the future barge into your house and destroy the item.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Why do you guys "buy" movies? Like, you plan to watch the movie many, many times in the future? How many times do you watch a movie? Just curious, because I've never had a desire to watch a movie more than once.

Either you have a perfect memory, or you’ve never been touched or moved sufficiently by a movie or show.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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> due to our content licensing agreements Aka, due to their mistake . When Sony originally signed an agreement, they should have insisted on a perpetual license for anything already in the customer's library. I was initially inclined toward some minimal sympathy for Sony here, but I see no good faith reason why they'd sign a licensing agreement which allows the other party to do this.

They could still refund all those purchases and come out good here, but we all know they won't.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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People also forget that the burden of collection is on you. Good luck chasing Sony for that $20 even if the court has ruled in your favor.

You're saying I can't just turn up to the nearest Sony store with a sheriff's deputy and take some shit?

You can. It's called a levy or a writ of attachment depending on the jurisdiction. you can also do a till levy where you send the sheriff to go clean out their cash register.

However, 1) when attaching property, you generally need to do a sheriff's auction.

2) You better damn well be sure the property belongs to the correct corporate entity, eg SCEA, inc. and not Sony, inc., Sony of America,Inc., etc. - otherwise you've just committed a wrongful garnishment and now Sony can sue you for punitives.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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"I buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing."

I hate this phrase, it is not a good analog for the situation and it slanders piracy. I understand the idea behind it and I hate the streaming/renting/digital purchase model as much as the next guy. If you don't want to pay for streaming own up to it, buy it on physical or steal it (make an illegitimate copy). But don't pretend you would pay for it if it was delivered in a different agreement. Do you expect to keep d…

> Do you expect to keep driving a rented car forever? Even if the car is only available through rent?

TBH I'd be a lot happier if they just called in "renting" instead of "buying" the movie. If you don't get to own it, why do they get to refer to it as "buying"?

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DVD perhaps yes, until the disc degrades. BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc.

Ok, how long do you have to rip & copy the content as you desire? It is still reasonably a forever version. Before you bring up laws around keys, first consider that jaywalking in front of your house is illegal too. Again, it is reasonably a forever version.

A rip & copy is a breach of the DMCA (because it involves circumvention of DRM, among other things) in the US, which makes it software piracy.

And then they wonder why so many advocate for just skipping the "purchase" step when the end result is legally the same.

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Snarky shit aside... Why should I pay to be treated as a criminal, when pirating is better in every way and costs nothing? There is no option of "Pay for digital copy of show that permits format/time shifting and backup for as long as I want, with no DRM". Like GOG. Doesn't exist in the pay realm.

It seems like you're just adding more and more qualifiers until you can finally justify piracy to yourself. You can reasonably do what you want if you buy the disc. There's a good chance that's how the people you're downloading from did it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You can't rip it, or even make backups in the US (you can in most, if not all, of Europe; dunno about the rest of the world). It's illegal, and constitutes piracy.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

#120

Why do people buy movies digitally anyway? I can understand digital movies (they are convenient) but renting or streaming seems far more reasonable. If you truly want to own a movie as I suspect people who buy them digitally do, the only way to ensure that is to buy it on DVD/Blu-ray and rip (or redeem the digital code version that often comes with modern releases, though those tend to have DRM). Even then, why do pe…

Convenience. I don’t buy many movies digitally but it’s usually because the family is over and they want to watch something new.

Of course I may then pirate it afterwards so I can keep a backup of my purchased movie.

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