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Post by giglamesh »

bunderbunder wrote: post #109
VladVladikoff wrote: post #15

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The flood of AI music on their platform is becuase people can make money off it. If you turn off that faucet you stop the flooding.

And the flood really is overwhelming. This weekend my mom was complaining about having trouble finding anything actually good to read on Kindle Unlimited. I mentioned that the relative lack of slop is one of the major reasons I chose Kobo over Kindle. Even before this latest AI boom I was already starting to view less content as a feature, not a bug, because it seems that on subscription services “more” is increasing…

I don't follow this rule strictly, but for most of my adult life I've limited most of my book reading to books > 10 years old. If it still seems remotely relevant and worth reading ten years later, it is far less likely to be a waste of my time. Now sure I'm a bit less prepared for water cooler conversations, but overall the policy has served me well.

> having trouble finding anything actually good to read on Kindle

because of AI slop is new benefit of sticking to older texts that I hadn't anticipated.

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Post by gwbas1c »

somehnguy wrote: post #47
esafak wrote: post #23

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Spotify is the same. This impersonation ought to be illegal.

Do you have some impersonated artist names I would be able to look up? This isn't a thing I have (knowingly) run into on Spotify yet and I'm really curious to see more

"Yes" and "BT". I've also some across some AI-generated slop under the name "Rush". There's someone releasing a new track almost every day as "BT" that is clearly not "BT".

I didn't see the naming issue that the other reply had with "Yes", but I do frequently see their name pop up with slop.

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Post by selectodude »

vlian2088 wrote: post #127
selectodude wrote: post #54

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You get both the white nationalist and the antisemite sides, yes.

as opposed to ye olde twitter where only wholesome racism was allowed https://web.archive.org/web/20181130015402/https://pasteboar... https://web.archive.org/web/20180827011518/https://pasteboar... https://web.archive.org/web/20180827011519/https://pasteboar...

I have this magical ability to think lots of people can suck simultaneously. I’m also able to separate the power and ability to inflict damage of a bunch of shitheads on twitter from the White House and the first ever trillionaire.

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Post by PierceJoy »

iamsaitam wrote: post #94
Kuyawa wrote: post #72

Why demonetize? What if people wants to pay for AI music? What about the long tail? There is a market for everything, just label it and let it be.

Then support your favorite AI music creators by going to their gigs.. oh wait

Sure, if you're referring to people who actually play instruments or sing. Electronic music shows are mostly DJing though.

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Post by giglamesh »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #91
gonzalohm wrote: post #83

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Why is that? And who draws the line? If I use a synthesizer to generate music, does that count as AI generated?

AI is not a tool, it is an oracle. Furthermore, it is an oracle built on copyright infringement. Do you understand the difference between "tool" and "oracle"?

Tool was a kind of metal/funk band (or something like that) and Oracle is a database (management system) that somehow made a lot of money for a lot of consultants (and the oligarch owners) even though open source alternatives were far superior.

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Post by jdiff »

graemep wrote: post #147
virgildotcodes wrote: post #102

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I'm not sure if you actually haven't checked it since, but will give you the benefit of the doubt. Accounts pushing white supremacy, the reversion of women's rights, hatred towards other on the basis of their race or religion, climate change denial, denial of science and promotion of pseudoscience, etc etc. are heavily promoted across the platform and get millions of engagements. If you create a new account, the majo…

So much the same as Facebook?

Facebook has their own sins crawling on their backs, yes.

Re: Tidal AI Policy

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Post by PierceJoy »

I have serious doubts that their detection will be good enough, especially in cases where it's not 100% AI generated. The EDM and hip hop genres relies heavily on samples, and I guarantee all the sample services all being pumped full of AI generated creations. Many artists using the sample won't even know they using things that are AI generated.

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Post by plagiarist »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #107
stronglikedan wrote: post #45

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How do you know / ensure you're getting all sides of the story? For one, many people have left the platform already because of its owner and policies, so you're not hearing those sides anymore. > I don't know anyone that's paid to engage, including myself. Anecdotal; people get paid / pay to post and promote certain content. But that's nothing new on social media. That said, escaping or avoiding bubbles is good, just…

As soon as they find the side of the story they already agree with they know that the platform is a marketplace of ideas instead of a bubble.

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Post by JauntyHatAngle »

dkhenry wrote: post #160
ktbwrestler wrote: post #136

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I feel the same way, but it’s hard to draw the line: - was the song totally one-shot “make me a song in the style of X?” - was it a legit artist that used AI to create a verse lyric stanza after they’d already created the entirety of the melody/ chords etc?

I would go with, if the song could be reasonably performed live by the human publishing it, and have a similar sound to the recording, then its fine to keep in. The issue I have is songs like this one, where there is no way anyone could even try to perform it https://open.spotify.com/track/0jGJtiDfEO9syfSL8AshBF?si=b92...

That doesn't really work for electronic music though.

Electronic or not, whether messing with a buchla or producing via vsts and changing knobs around still ends up with a human feel and human choices in a way AI music doesn't.

And what about the line between triggers or samples? I can play some impossible AI music if I sample the impossible parts and just say it's a sample played on a synth or whatever.

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Post by freakynit »

jdiff wrote: post #157
dcrazy wrote: post #139

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I haven’t been on Twitter since before Elon took over. Do most users ever interact with Grok?

It waxes and it wanes, but people breathlessly asking Grok "IS THIS TRUE??" is prevalent. People often call on Grok to argue their points for them. The interaction is inflicted.

Meme context: https://x.com/BrunoCendon/status/1926883516890898637
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