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Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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We need some way to address the low level crime in the US. If you look at cities in east Asia, they're both much larger than typical US cities and much safer. It -is- possible to have safe large cities. The fact that we don't is a choice.

You're getting loads of replies that seem to knee-jerk defend US cities purely to oppose Flock. And let's be real and admit that adding more cameras does little to improve this. My whole neighbourhood has a panopticon of surveillance cameras on every property, yet there have still been home burglaries and several cars stolen.

Many Asian cities are safer -- and they undisputedly are -- for cultural reasons. You can't create culture through surveillance.

Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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East Asia built a uni-culture by being extremely racist against outsiders. I don't think you can get away with that anywhere else. A friend of mine (white guy) married a Chinese woman and when they visited China they were subject to slurs and dirty looks in public. There's a whole category of videos on social media of Japanese furiously angry at Westerners acting like fools on their subways. They're not happy about i…

I’m an Indian with a Taiwanese-American wife. I’ve never experienced even the mildest amount of racism in Taiwan. Everyone was kind and friendly to me. And Taiwan is very safe. I’m not going to pretend that an anecdote fully captures a problem but considering I spent over a month there just living a normal life I imagine that if the problem were widespread I’d have many chances to experience it. My elderly parents we…

I don’t know if I would consider a month long vacation as evidence. Taiwan is pretty famous for have lower labor classes that they import from places like the Philippines and while people are friendly, they are still generally looked down upon. Not dissimilar to places like Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore. So I think racism is a pretty loaded and broad word and people typically think about it in purely an American context, it’s more common around the world than people think in all kinds of shades.

Ultimately I do agree with the original thesis around monocultures.

Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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And it's not an accident that Flock cameras were implicated in many ICE raids at Home Depot and Lowe's, either.

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It was both, of course, but it's not an accident they were placed there at scale.

Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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East Asia built a uni-culture by being extremely racist against outsiders. I don't think you can get away with that anywhere else. A friend of mine (white guy) married a Chinese woman and when they visited China they were subject to slurs and dirty looks in public. There's a whole category of videos on social media of Japanese furiously angry at Westerners acting like fools on their subways. They're not happy about i…

The pot calling the kettle black…

What are you even trying to say? Why does everything devolve into whataboutism?

Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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You must live in a different New York City than the one I visited. I had the safety calibration of Tallinn, Estonia and Dubai, UAE. The subway was extremely hostile. People were regularly drugged out of their mind. I saw one guy try to drink a Coca Cola upside down and spilled it all in the bus. Another crazy chased my limited mobility Estonian friend who wanted to visit nyc alongside me when she went alone for groce…

These are all lies. Small towns have notiriously higher crime rates than Nyc. We should send the National Guard to your small town and place cameras every where. I dont feel safe in your small town. I moved away from middle America that’s swamped in meth, high murder rate, and racism. Sorry someone spilled a coca-cola though. Your pearls must be powder in your hands by now.

His small town? Tallinn is comparatively tiny to NYC admittedly but Dubai is a fairly large and urban city. I think that it doesn’t quite fit the appellation.

Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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Honestly I like that policy. What's the legality of flock in Texas?

Totally legal. The operating theory of all of these cameras is that anything happening in public sight is by its nature not private. The federal government is dumping millions and millions of dollars into grant programs for municipalities to buy it… It’s a giant federal surveillance program disguised as decisions made by individual police departments. It’s hilarious and depressing to contrast the HN community reactio…

What meh response? There has been a continued and very vocal response against flock here.

Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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It was both, of course, but it's not an accident they were placed there at scale.

I disagree, I see them all over the place, it is due to shoplifting.

Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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Honestly I like that policy. What's the legality of flock in Texas?

Totally legal. The operating theory of all of these cameras is that anything happening in public sight is by its nature not private. The federal government is dumping millions and millions of dollars into grant programs for municipalities to buy it… It’s a giant federal surveillance program disguised as decisions made by individual police departments. It’s hilarious and depressing to contrast the HN community reactio…

You're mistaken if you think the community is still the same percentage of humans.

Re: Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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It was both, of course, but it's not an accident they were placed there at scale.

I disagree, I see them all over the place, it is due to shoplifting.

It is also due to shoplifting. They wouldn't get deployed if nobody could justify them in any way.

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