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Re: Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models

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SOTA AI is the only place where we are ahead. china has us beat on manufacturing, logistics and workhorse grade models like deepseek pro and glm5.2. we're increasingly irrelevant

they are also generating >2x the amount of electricity, core to ai, robots, and manufacturing

no kidding. I learned last week that they have intercontinental high voltage DC transmission lines.

Re: Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models

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I'm expecting a ban of "foreign" llms due to "safety concerns" before the year is over. It will have nothing to do with the actual performance. But anthropic has set the bar for mythos-like systems, and whatever meets that loosely defined bar will be unsafe for the public.

As if there is no actual risk as the models progress, give me a break.

I seem to live in an alternate reality that Claude is the only thing that seems to ever say anything smart at this point.

Almost everything I read from humans is a hallucination and performative bullshit.

Re: Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models

#186

I'm expecting a ban of "foreign" llms due to "safety concerns" before the year is over. It will have nothing to do with the actual performance. But anthropic has set the bar for mythos-like systems, and whatever meets that loosely defined bar will be unsafe for the public.

Well, goodbye to US tech and welcome China then I guess, nobody will wait and you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Re: Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models

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We provide a similar service for Godot instead of Unity, and 20$ plan being exhausted in one prompt on a top model like Opus sounds about right. That's the life when you pay API prices and can't afford 10x subsidies.

Is this true even for more targeted prompts that aren't about looking over an entire codebase or w/e? I just stick to my sub pricing and find good success on targeted requests, but I wonder if I would run up against things even then if not for subsidies.

One prompt might be a bit much, but experience shows that $20 is roughly 3 or 4 context windows on GTP-5.5

Re: Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models

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I tried the Fugu models with some real world tales in C# and unity using mcp and open code. I exhausted the $20 plan 5 hour window in one prompt to review my theme system and plan some color changes. So I upgraded to the $100 to see the implementation and result. Well the result was worse than Opus, incredibly slow, and I ended up exhausting the new 5 hour window and have used 35% of the weekly now and it hardly crea…

Because Fugu is not an independent model. They just use multiple existing SaaS models from OpenAI, Anthropic etc in background, gather response and generate results based on these response.

They claims that combining the results of multiple AI models and generate final result by using their in-house proprietary model improve the quality than using the single backend model.

It cause all sorts of doubts like: is their in-house model really exists? Is their in-house model really capable?

Personally, even if their claim is correct, such feature can be easily implemented in client side like Claude Code etc, using the equally capable model from background model to generate the final result.

I smell something fishy on their service.

Re: Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models

#189

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I tested Fable through Cursor; asked for ideas on how to make a data website I have less "Claude-like" (IYKYK what are the usual tells), and it spun out the most useless, Claude-like CSS styling ever, wasting $40 in 10 minutes. The website was created through Opus, so you could also say the results were worse than Opus. (This is just to say that I had the same experience using the US models, so perhaps those Asian mo…

> I tested Fable through Cursor; I tested Fable for a whole day. And my experience was quite the opposite. I was blown away. Admittedly, I did not try it through a middleman like Cursor. I used Claude Code CLI.

I also felt that Fable was mindblowing.

Re: Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models

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Should have said East Asia. As I clicked expecting India from the title (as China are already there and India has so many devs surprising they haven't yet).

Are you from UK perhaps? Because UK is the only place I know where "asian" also includes India and Pakistan. Everywhere else India is sort of separate entity and always mentioned separately.

yes!

In Uk asian = south asian. As many decades ago we had large migration from those countries and less of others.

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