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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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The only big one I remember is the college loan forgiveness thing.

> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-dealt-bide... That would be your politics coloring your memory.

Actually I probably just wasn't paying that much attention.

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I think the Europeans have had some bad experiences with the communist system so naturally they are not very keen to any get communist influence. Once China can twist your arm you can be sure they will. Just mention democracy to them and you will see what comes next.

China is an authoritarian ethno nationalist state-capitalist system. They are so far from anything remotely communist. The only thing communist about it is the name of their mono party

They pretty much like to confiscate your property and or force you “donate” your profit (see Alibaba for a very good example), make you disappear, enforce censorship and all that stuff very familiar to European communist regimes. They may be different flavours of communism but they all stink.

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I can see a limited way this benefits Anthropic. They've been having issues with one or more Chinese companies using Anthropic models' outputs at high scale to train their own models. By restricting Fable and Mythos temporarily and then rolling out to their most important customers first, then requiring identity verification, they may be able to slow that behavior significantly.

They are losing a ton of money on this and would be much much better off if people (Americans or not) had been building with Fable over the past few weeks rather than not If Anthropic wanted to continue slow rolling their best model to a select few companies they could've kept expanding mythos access instead Not to mention the fact that OpenAI has had time to prep 5.6 for release so that there will actually be an alt…

"A limited way this benefits" is not a suggestion that this was intentional. It's absolutely either the administration being dumb or Trump attacking a competitor to his son's investments.

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codex sub 200usd. in eu it magically becomes 200eur(hello beuracrates) plus vat. You already taxing 30%. That on top that I pay via mine already heavily taxes money. Mistral experience was as miserable as running local models btw.

> hello beuracrates Just in case you missed that class, taxes are determined by legislators

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I think the Europeans have had some bad experiences with the communist system so naturally they are not very keen to any get communist influence. Once China can twist your arm you can be sure they will. Just mention democracy to them and you will see what comes next.

Most Europeans do not think about some ill-defined "communist threat" at all. The majority of negative opinions about China stem from economic worries. Also FYI: the CCP has officially adopted the designation "socialist democracy" for themselves*, so I don't think you're going to bother them much by using that term. You'll have to get more specific about what you think their "democracy" should look like for them to s…

You are off the rails. Ask China why they don’t like Taiwan’s political system, or better why they don’t adopt it to make the “unification” more attainable. The Communist party is everything in China.

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I would even argue that the USA is imploding without China. The normal USA citicen can't afford a car anymore. Either they make it a lot cheaper over there or they have to continue pressue the USA Citicents to accept that they are not allowed to buy cheap China products. It will be quitei nteresting to see if we will see a global rebalancing of manufactoring and co around the globe for USA, Europe and China or a over…

This is not how economists think. They see the US, go "Coal mining, check. Iron mining, check, so you can make steel inside US. More than enough people, check. Oil, check. As well as 1000 other things, and mostly, the checks are there", and conclude the US could produce cheap cars. So if it makes sense or it becomes urgent enough, it will happen. Nothing is really preventing the US from doing everything itself, and d…

Didn't USA get rich by being the manufactoring powerhose in the 60/70s? That wasn't just because USA consumed everything by themselves.

I assume it was a mix of exports and a continuesly growing population keeping this system alive for a long time.

If you know reduce the avg salary down to 1/3, you will get cheaper cars (if you even still need people to make cars, relevant amount of people), but still no one can afford it.

You need to get down from the current price point of 50k down to what? 20k?

Car manufactorers will have to shrink down production, reduce laber numbers, reduce salaries and the avg us american will have to downsize its consumption by a lot.

The USAmericans are at least not taking social security and health care as a human right, after all they don't know it better mh?

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The US as a large-scale import nation and so does not need the rest of the world (except perhaps Europe, and only small parts) to keep its markets open to the US. Even in the European case, Europe would lose much more than the US would if they closed their markets. Plus, a lot of Europe is either very close to breaking point and unwilling to change (Italy), or rapidly worsening into a crash, and unwilling to change (…

European economy would implode without trading with US. The biggest economy in Europe, Germany; exports cars, pharmaceuticals and other high end machinery to US and the whole middle class in Germany relies on the jobs from those exports oriented companies

To be fair, it would be a bigger issue for the US. No country is more economically dependant on the rest of the world than the US. The US is living on the USD, and if others stop using it the US would have to do extreme cuts on everything.

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Ah yes, the classic “Europe is in decline” narrative favored by Americans. You’d think after more than a decade of that nonsense, people would start to ignore it or at least question its assumptions. Nominal GDP and venture capital funding are not the only things that matter in an economy.

Europe has no tech industry. It's largely floating on the same economy it had 50 years ago. The situation is beyond dire.

Hey! We Norwegians have on average more ownership in US tech companies than Americans!

Everything is going according to plan. When we have majority, we'll move the companies to Norway, but don't tell anyone, this is supposed to be a secret. /s

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European economy would implode without trading with US. The biggest economy in Europe, Germany; exports cars, pharmaceuticals and other high end machinery to US and the whole middle class in Germany relies on the jobs from those exports oriented companies

To be fair, it would be a bigger issue for the US. No country is more economically dependant on the rest of the world than the US. The US is living on the USD, and if others stop using it the US would have to do extreme cuts on everything.

That’s true, but every time a country or a group of country tried to do that US has stopped it either strategically or with military force so far.

Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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To be fair, it would be a bigger issue for the US. No country is more economically dependant on the rest of the world than the US. The US is living on the USD, and if others stop using it the US would have to do extreme cuts on everything.

That’s true, but every time a country or a group of country tried to do that US has stopped it either strategically or with military force so far.

But you are talking about Europe. If the US and Europe were to cut all ties they would both face some serious consequences, and the US wouldn't be able to do anything about that, not strategically or military. The US need trust in order to function, and attacking would loose them all trust globally, making it much much more severe than anything any other nations would struggle with.
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