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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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"U.S. government will decide who will switch to deepseek"

Or, as a European, thanx for letting Mistral catch-up, I was looking for a reason to use it... A foreign gov deciding what I can use or being able to suddenly pull the plug on my tool makes it easier to choose the lesser quality. (And now I hope my own leaders won't start pulling models :p)

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Im not worried about this at all. The OpenAI, Anthropic and the US government can play this game all they want... They're just accelerating the development of open source models; and helping destroy the lead the US has built in AI, and their profit margins along with it. This is like the battle between PostgreSQL and Oracle all over. Move up market, isolate yourself to enterprises, and watch while everyone else build…

>The OpenAI, Anthropic and the US government can play this game all they want... OpenAI and Anthropic did not call for the US Government to limit who Fable 5 and GPT 5.6 could be rolled out to.

> Frontier AI models, like airplanes, should be required to go through technical testing and auditing, and their release should be blocked or reversed as a threat to public safety if they do not meet high standards of safety

Amodei. June 2026 https://darioamodei.com/post/policy-on-the-ai-exponential

> We're proposing stronger regulation of the technology, proposing giving the government the ability to, again, in a narrow way, block deployment of unsafe technology

Amodei. June 2026 https://abcnews.com/Business/exclusive-anthropic-ceo-calls-s...

> This is not to suggest that we won't need any regulation or safeguards. We obviously do, urgently, like we have for other powerful technologies

Altman. Feb 2026 https://techxplore.com/news/2026-02-openai-altman-world-urge...

> He gave several suggestions for how a new agency in the US could regulate the industry - including "a combination of licensing and testing requirements" for AI companies, which he said could be used to regulate the "development and release of AI models above a threshold of capabilities".

Altman. May 2023 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65616866

etc. etc.

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The real reason, afaik, that the US is trying to restrict access to SOTA models is that a very large component of USA tailored access and surveillance relies on exploits and weaknesses that these models will easily detect. Thus, it really is an export control issue, but it has nothing to do with offensive capabilities. Offensive capabilities always exist, but pervasive defensibility would upset the asymmetric advanta…

> There are now Asian models coming , optimized focused on cybersecurity defense at a high level, so I suspect this will be a relatively moot point soon.

Source?

Re: U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

#964

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

As I understood they will limit running those undesired llms with Remote Attestation and Trusted Execution Environments.

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Are these models still relevant for people outside the US? I get the impression we're stuck on GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8 pretty much permanently now, and relying on Chinese models in future.

Dont worry, chinese models will distill frontier ones, quite fast. The excuse they give is borderline childish. I get the thing about slow rollout, make sure partners get to fix the bugs, etc... But bad actors are hard working motivated entities with tens of thousand of fake ids, and american citizens working for them, for pennies. All while the ones like or you sit at a crossfire which is borderline useless. I cant…

Anybody who used codex or claude for the last few months is sitting on directories full of session logs that -- with the right motivation and effort -- can be massages and used for fine tuning or reinforcement training on any large model.

Re: U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

#966

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

This also completely screws over U.S. businesses. American startups will be forced to pay premium prices for nerfed, heavily-censored, 'compliant' models from a few massive corporations. Meanwhile, foreign startups will be running cheaper, unrestricted open-source AI. We'll price ourselves right out of the global market. What government wants to have their population use foreign AI. (Not many). Only issue I see is go…

This is probably not the intent.

US intelligence has gamed this out and sees risks at the fringe - advanced artificial intelligence moves the needle the most in countries economically & politically dominated by the USA, the Global South are the targets of this, not US startups.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's different, because most books don't contain the nuclear codes or have real impacts on national security. The way I see so many comments on the internet hating any sort of AI regulation, is young juveniles cursing at the installation of stoplights as they rev their engines. The world is bigger than just you, and not only you matter. Reasons exist for doing things.

So you okay with the government banning open source models, and making a list of who can have access to intelligence based on who they like? That just doesn't seem like a world I want to live in. I prefer a world where everyone has the same access to the same intelligence. Go back to the beginning of the internet, you would be for limiting the internet access to those the government likes? I was around in the early d…

I was around back then too and experienced the full depth of the wild west. AI dwarfs that in every way. What you're talking about is small potatoes by comparison.

Even the old internet, I'm kind of with you on that being something the market should naturally respond to which is why Google rightfully nerfed its search tools over the years, software changed and network infrastructure evolved.

This is different. The government already silently manages many things you never hear about and limits information reporting. Reasonable people generally go "ah, ok" for things that are beyond a threshold, because it seems like a sensible role for governance.

I think everyone agrees government should not simply be curating AI models that only spew public information or say something inconvenient about a political party or whatever. I also don't think people want AI models that are constantly trying to guess whether you're a child and should have certain information. That's not largely the issue.

You can list me the threats that you think AI poses, and I'll let you know if you're warm or not.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The west's war on Russia? Afaik there is not a single invader in Russian lands. And nobody was threatening to invade, especially after Napoleon and Hitler demonstrated invading Russia is suicide.

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Re: U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

#969

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

>can train insainly powerful models on my laptop

Can you give an example or two?

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