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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

guywithahat wrote: post #416
aristocrazy wrote: post #312

Given how the WH operates these days, this is ripe for corruption. Imagine the WH dislikes the CEO of a biotech company, while appreciating the attitude of a competitor CEO. What is to stop them from stalling on giving acess for the latest model to the company they don't like?

The tragedy is the Trump admin is setting the precedent and creating the framework which will be abused in the future. For all the complains he made about the deep state, he's just creating a new avenue for them to abuse power

Ah yes, the defining tragedy of the Trump administration is ... gestures into the middle distance ... look over there! what if those guys abuse it one day?

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Post by Matl »

swiftcoder wrote: post #884
rzerowan wrote: post #666

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as Europe is concerned they have recently signed up to the 'Pax Silica'[1] and willingly givrn the LLM space over to the US incumbents with buildtin legislation banning Chinese models and coperation with them. So EU will be a renter of the LLMs that the US allows them to use. In the long run OpenSource will dominate as it did in the DB(MySQL/Postgres)/ServerOS(Linux/BSDs) versus Proprietery rent seeking alts l…

They have signed a non-binding agreement to potentially cooperate on AI supply chains. It's hardly a declaration of fealty, nor does it have any practical impact on the use of Chinese models in the near term. I'd view this more as hedging their bets for the future.

> It's hardly a declaration of fealty

As a European, the way I see it, Europe declared fealty to the US and relinquished its sovereignty a long time ago, sadly.

Also, the way these agreements tend to work is that you agree that you won't source from the 'enemy side' i.e. China. It works this way for NATO and it will work the same way here.

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

Matl wrote: post #902
swiftcoder wrote: post #884

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have signed a non-binding agreement to potentially cooperate on AI supply chains. It's hardly a declaration of fealty, nor does it have any practical impact on the use of Chinese models in the near term. I'd view this more as hedging their bets for the future.

> It's hardly a declaration of fealty As a European, the way I see it, Europe declared fealty to the US and relinquished its sovereignty a long time ago, sadly. Also, the way these agreements tend to work is that you agree that you won't source from the 'enemy side' i.e. China. It works this way for NATO and it will work the same way here.

>As a European, the way I see it, Europe declared fealty to the US and relinquished its sovereignty a long time ago, sadly.

No such declaration was ever made. Europe has just failed to compete.

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Post by DrBazza »

jmward01 wrote: post #604

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

I guess if the new model has the capability to do 'something' that's national security threat, then this makes sense. Otherwise this move makes zero sense, and actually is a drag on innovation - who wants to invest money and people to make a better model that can't actually be sufficiently sold to make a return on investment? Meanwhile other models from Europe or China that are better steal market share. Though that's not to say they won't do the same thing for the same reasons.

> Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated

Well, there was the kerfuffle around PS3 (IIRC) and 'supercomputers'. I suppose that would be the 2020s version of that. What's old is new again. Ultimately you can just continually wire together less powerful hardware to come up with something that can do the job.

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Post by joe_mamba »

DrBazza wrote: post #906
jmward01 wrote: post #604

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

I guess if the new model has the capability to do 'something' that's national security threat, then this makes sense. Otherwise this move makes zero sense, and actually is a drag on innovation - who wants to invest money and people to make a better model that can't actually be sufficiently sold to make a return on investment? Meanwhile other models from Europe or China that are better steal market share. Though that'…

>Well, there was the kerfuffle around PS3 (IIRC) and 'supercomputers'.

There were no export restrictions on the PS3.

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Post by gozucito »

rogerruth wrote: post #881
RickS wrote: post #21

US citizens to remain nonviolent at any cost, issue strongly worded internet comments, and find themselves a little less free every day.

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The west's war on Russia?

Afaik there is not a single invader in Russian lands. And nobody was threatening to invade, especially after Napoleon and Hitler demonstrated invading Russia is suicide.

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Post by resters »

This is what we get when the president is a nepo baby who inherited a fortune and bankrupted many companies and had mainly business failures before entering politics.

I’m quite confident that few people are more ignorant on AI than Donald Trump. That he promised less regulation and lied is no different than his many other lies.

In six months everyone will cancel frontier subscriptions.

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Post by aenis »

nullbio wrote: post #889
rgbrenner wrote: post #283

Im not worried about this at all. The OpenAI, Anthropic and the US government can play this game all they want... They're just accelerating the development of open source models; and helping destroy the lead the US has built in AI, and their profit margins along with it. This is like the battle between PostgreSQL and Oracle all over. Move up market, isolate yourself to enterprises, and watch while everyone else build…

What is this Oracle you speak of? Never heard of it.

From what I recall they were big in the extortion business back in the day, and these days I think they are into construction or waste disposal, maybe both.
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