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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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In the US is already legal. It is called lobbying.

This is such an annoying attitude. Who is against the concept of an industry being able to say “are you aware this will decimate the jobs of tens of thousands”? Catch phrases like this, I swear, are half the reason so many people have a mind an inch deep and a mile wide.

The issue is that lobbying extends to PAC and Super PAC campaign donations. Which is pretty close to a bribe.

Lobbyist giving opinions, isn’t anywhere near corruption. Lobbyist giving campaign support by the $100,000 is a lot closer though.

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Can anyone explain to me (a non US citizen) how this won't be found to be unconstitutional (eventually)?. I would think it falls under freedom of expression. And given the attempted classification of encryption as a munition that failed, I don't see how this can possibly last?

Well it seems both Anthropic and OpenAI are consciously choosing to do this, which means, for now, neither plan on suing. So if no one sues, how could it be unconstitutional?

Both companies 100% helped create this situation with their incessant safety and cybersecurity hype. Reaping what they sowed.

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This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

As far as Europe is concerned they have recently signed up to the 'Pax Silica'[1] and willingly givrn the LLM space over to the US incumbents with buildtin legislation banning Chinese models and coperation with them. So EU will be a renter of the LLMs that the US allows them to use. In the long run OpenSource will dominate as it did in the DB(MySQL/Postgres)/ServerOS(Linux/BSDs) versus Proprietery rent seeking alts like Oracle and Microsoft et al. Would be interesting to see what the global startups using Qwen/DS/Kimi etc within the EU-US space navigate the cutting edge OpenSource LLMs vs seeking/getting a permission slip from the US gov.

[1]https://archive.is/aiJiq

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How does this account for the Chinese models that are the ones people will use if they can't use OAI's or Anthropic's. Last time I checked, the US president doesn't have the ability to regulate the Chinese models. Considering this, do you still stand by your maybe?

Maybe they are looking into those too and a ban might be on the horizon. President makes their own rules now and controls the supreme court, you can't consider precedent anymore.

Most of them are open weight, ban them how? An executive order can only prohibit their use within/for the federal government, that's it.

The administration may try, and the bigger more risk adverse companies will capitulate willingly, but its about as ineffective of a ban as you can get. It'd be like trying to ban running Linux on your home computer because it "might be able be used to conduct cyberattacks"

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Watch out, ive read that the US government has incarcerated people for about 50 years for doing that.

Stop spreading misinformation. They were found guilty by a jury of their peers of providing material support for terrorism[1]. They shot a cop in the neck. They coordinated on Signal to bring firearms. They didn't plan to "protest". They got off lightly. Should have been life without parole. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention...

One person shot a cop. Not "they".

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Correction: Can you yet?

Anthropic and OpenAI: Dear Uncle Sam, it seems laptops became too powerful, can you please do something Uncle Sam: For national security reasons starting from now on every purchase of GPU model with higher than X Petaflops will need written permission by the US president Anthropic and OpenAI: Look poor citizens, we are willing to share our capacity with you in limited form, by using our LLM you can avoid spending 35…

finally, our GPU 'Come and take it' flags will be understood

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Can I ask what did you buy? I don't have that money now but I wouldn't knpw what to buy anyway.

Blackwell 96gb + 128gb system ram. Not powerful enough for GLM 5.2 but I may upgrade.

Thanks! What a beast.
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