I solved this problem by moving my U.S. home from Sunnyvale, CA to St. Charles MO.
That’s a long way to go for 3d printing…
It probably would’ve been cheaper to just buy the gun at a store if you wanted one that bad.
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unlike the downvoters, I'm genuinely curious: do you believe a narrative that the US has no gun control laws? Sometimes I wonder if that is what people outside the US think.
Nah you're not talking about the same thing. When you say it has gun control laws you're thinking "you have to wait 10 days to buy a pistol". When he says it has no gun control laws he's thinking "after 10 days you can buy a pistol". Poor choice of words on his part perhaps, but I think it was pretty obvious what he meant if you're not nitpicking.
Right. Combination of poor choice of words, ignorance and laziness not educating myself before posting. But yes, I am Australian, came of age around the time of Port Arthur, I cross Hoddle St a number of times every week. I remember the amnesty. The contrast in gun culture does seem stark.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
School shootings are extremely rare and so I was curious how it could be that large. The nuance is that those pages are not just listing school shootings as commonly understood/feared, but any shooting involving a school in any way. So for instance from the 2010s [1] page you get teacher shooting principle, biology professor (female no less!) shooting other professors, guy killing himself in a university library afte…
All the dodgy things listed in the second paragraph are solid school shootings?
They don't pattern match with what people visualize as school shootings: kids bringing guns to school to shoot other kids.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have the resources, you could also serve her with papers. IANAL, but that arguably is libel, defamation, harassment and so incredibly insane that it deserves a severe legal smackdown.
So their child was accused of 3D printing a gun and taking it in to school, the parent confirmed online that, yes, their child did 3D print a gun and take it to school ... I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve. It's not libel, it's a misunderstanding.
It was a gun in the same way the word GUN on a page is a gun: only symbolically.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
All the dodgy things listed in the second paragraph are solid school shootings?
They don't pattern match with what people visualize as school shootings: kids bringing guns to school to shoot other kids.
It is a nitpick, but majority of what you mean was (large ones) were committed by adults.
List by deaths is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_th...
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#156Let me get this straight. The USA has no gun control laws but legislators want to prevent people from making guns with 3D printers?
Unlike the downvoters, I'm genuinely curious: do you believe a narrative that the US has no gun control laws? Sometimes I wonder if that is what people outside the US think.
I'll try to answer as accurately as I can. The narrative that I read into the media that I consume is that (1) the US has ineffective gun control laws, and (2) that there is widespread availability of a variety of guns and ammunition to anyone who wants it. I believe that gun ownership is a constitutional right in the US. I was aware that only some states are "open carry." I am not surprised to be corrected that some states have strict legislation, but I was not aware of that, and it does not seem consistent with my understanding of gun freedom in the USA.
I triangulate (1) from the ongoing mass shootings in the US and the few mass shootings that I recall from my youth: for a long time it seemed to me that the 1996 National Firearms Agreement [1] had been effective here in Australia.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Agreement
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would a state enforce federal law?
The US legal system never ceases to amaze me. Why indeed should a state enforce a law? Like, one of those anti-discrimination laws?
Historically, the states never would have come together to create the United States if they had to give up all of their own sovereignty. The constitution is full of compromises.
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#158Like I wrote before is that it signals to the outsiders that things in CA are actually pretty well. The biggest problems are solved if the top of the agenda is to police 3D printers. That’s at least how it should be. I am being sarcastic, of course, I’ve seem the homeless in San Francisco and I am sure that’s not the only major problem.
You've also got an infestation of billionaires in the San Francisco/ San Jose area ;-)
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#160My kindergartner has a 3D printer. I got a call from the school principal. She said “another parent called and said your son 3D printed a gun and brought it to school”. I looked at the print history. It was a tiny toy mandalorian figurine holding a blaster pistol in his hand. I bought my son a bigger 3D printer and told him to stop playing with that boy.
That boy knows what he is doing. Kids figure this stuff out they are no dummies. You don’t like so and so? Tell teachers they printed a “gun”. Or mentioned “gun” or said a politically incorrect word. It’s a form of bullying using a system’s irrationality against others. Kind of like swatting
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