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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Post by ElProlactin »

wyrdcurt wrote: post #533
ElProlactin wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Elsewhere in this thread you insinuated that someone is a Chinese propagandist for pointing out that the US is actually aggressive in ways China is not. Why don't you specifically point to which of my comments you're referring to? Is it my response to the dubious throwaway account https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48695288 ? China is increasingly aggressive towards its neighbors, and we don't even have to talk a…

Yes, I was referring to that comment. You knew exactly which one I was talking about without pointing it out specifically, so why should I have bothered? Now you just dropped five links in an attempt to demonstrate that Chinese aggression is comparable to US aggression, and yet none of those incidents amounted to extrajudicial execution (aka murder), which is what the person with the throwaway account was referencing…

> Now you just dropped five links in an attempt to demonstrate that Chinese aggression is comparable to US aggression, and yet none of those incidents amounted to extrajudicial execution (aka murder), which is what the person with the throwaway account was referencing.

China engages in the extrajudicial execution of its own citizens.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/asa17/009/1990/en/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3598791

China even runs a large network of "overseas police stations" to track and intimidate overseas Chinese, including dissidents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_servic...

And China doesn't just target plebs. Government officials literally disappear too.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/02/03/world/asia/ch...

I personally believe that the US has committed a significant number of crimes. That doesn't mean I'm blind to the fact that other countries commit crimes too.

I'm not sure why so many people struggle to acknowledge that all of this stuff is evil, regardless of the country doing it.

> For all you know, that throwaway account is someone who uses this site for professional development ...

Normal people using sites like this for professional development don't decide to create throwaway accounts post a single response to one short comment, buried in the context of a larger thread, that wasn't even highly downvoted or upvoted. This is what troll farms do and I'd have to question your intellectual honesty if you keep pretending that this isn't exactly what China-sponsored troll farm commenting looks like.

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Post by resters »

wolvoleo wrote: post #419
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably due to the US government doing a constant stream of insane things that hurt Americans and their allies and China not doing that.

Yes this. China's leadership is pretty evil and clearly a danger to the world but not insane.

China’s leadership is pragmatic, transparent, mature.

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Post by jstummbillig »

notrealyme123 wrote: post #495
re-thc wrote: post #486

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Doesn’t help unless they get GPUs or equivalent to train.

With enough money this problem is solvable. GPUs alone are only a fraction of a frontier model.

Musk tried, no?

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Post by amarant »

Dear anthropic, please consider moving your entire business to Canada or Europe where you will be allowed to conduct your business without vindictive and Kafkaesque government interference. I would like to have access to your models too!

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Post by Davidzheng »

dgellow wrote: post #502
notrealyme123 wrote: post #495

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With enough money this problem is solvable. GPUs alone are only a fraction of a frontier model.

Im really not convinced that can be solved with money alone. China has the money and infrastructure, they don’t have the chips. Europe doesn’t have the infrastructure or the money but may have some chips

oh so they should team up

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Post by daseiner1 »

amarant wrote: post #554

Dear anthropic, please consider moving your entire business to Canada or Europe where you will be allowed to conduct your business without vindictive and Kafkaesque government interference. I would like to have access to your models too!

famously friendly business environments europe & canada

lol

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Post by [deleted] »

varjag wrote: post #395
sschueller wrote: post #382

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The LLM improvement curve will level off and with so many AI engineering being in China they will catch up quickly. The financial growth based on that everyone on earth will need to have an OpenAI or Anthropic subscription is quickly falling apart. DeepSeek V4 is good enough for most of my work that that I can no longer justify paying 100x for something else. The cost difference is astronomical.

Not sure why people here are so upbeat about China. It is almost guaranteed it will also introduce export controls on the models.

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Post by someguyornotidk »

If this becomes the norm, what incentive does the rest of the world have to keep their markets open to the US?

If US companies have a large unfair advantage such that domestic competitors are no longer able to compete, then wouldn't it make sense for governments around the world to ban or tariff US products and services?

If I was responsible for national economic policy, I would place this at the top of my non-emergency agenda. The world needs to act quick before their industries fail.

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Post by xpct »

dansquizsoft wrote: post #528
goldenarm wrote: post #456

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Talent concentration, little tech regulation, English speaking, decent funding, close to GMT. There's a reason why a big chunk Google deepmind is already there.

> Talent concentration Lol

To my knowledge there's still talent left in London, even after the wage stagnation.

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Post by mschuster91 »

daseiner1 wrote: post #556
amarant wrote: post #554

Dear anthropic, please consider moving your entire business to Canada or Europe where you will be allowed to conduct your business without vindictive and Kafkaesque government interference. I would like to have access to your models too!

famously friendly business environments europe & canada lol

Well, as long as you stick to the rules you can do business in Europe and it can't be taken away from you.

As long as you are in the US? No one protects you. Asset forfeiture, arbitrary sanctions, arbitrary tariffs, your employees can get arrested and deported right off the street if they happen to have non-white skin and live in a city under siege by ICE, and if you oppose the regime or just dare to not kiss the ring, say goodbye to planned mergers.

Rule of law matters, and rule of law is gone in the US.

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