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Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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Re: Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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Post by gambiting »

NickM wrote: post #218
steve8918 wrote: post #52

The only logical conclusion that can be made from eBay's and Paypal's policies is that they no longer want small sellers to use them. They want professional sellers to sell from their site, people who are used to dealing with chargebacks, etc, and can foot the bill when it comes to chargebacks/fraud. They want to facilitate BUYING from regular people, but make SELLING by regular people very difficult. There is no oth…

There is no other explanation for getting rid of buyer reputation and providing no protection to sellers. I disagree. Back in the old days when I used to use eBay before they removed buyer feedback, it was considered unwise to ever leave a seller negative feedback because they might turn around and leave you negative feedback in retaliation. By removing buyer feedback, it allows buyers to leave unbiased seller feedba…

I completely disagree. I use Allegro.pl(which is like Ebay,but actually was first to the market in Poland and is absolutely HUGE there, Ebay tries to establish itself in there but is without any chances), and both parties can leave feedback - and I have over 7500 reputation, both for selling and buying, and I have left more than a few negative feedbacks for a seller, only one of which resulted in a counter-negative feedback - and it was removed within a few days after I complained to customer service. Oh,and for the payment methods - they work with every single bank in Poland, accepting quick, instantaneous bank transfers directly from your account, no credit card needed,no need for shitty PayPal - but if you want to they will happily accept any credit card. Or as a seller they keep your money in your Allegro account, and pay it out to your bank account daily - without any additional fees. I have personally had so many problems with PayPal that I hate that company wholeheartedly.

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Post by stavrianos »

lifeformed wrote: post #274
encoderer wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

THIS. Except, I suppose, how do you validate THAT? If I'm the seller, and you send me back an empty box or an old iPhone 3GS, what do I do then?

Just also tell them, "Item not as described".

Item not as not as described

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Post by dopkew »

kamkazemoose wrote: post #260
sp332 wrote: post #255

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A bad seller (or buyer) could avoid negative feedback just by never leaving feedback, meaning the buyer (or seller) would never be able to publish theirs.

Then you place a time limit on submitting feedback. Say you have 1 week-1 month. Still not perfect since it sounds like in the posted scam he didn't find out for over a month, but it might help in many cases. E: Also just had another idea. You could have a way to edit your feedback after the original deadline in case of fraud. If you open up a dispute like the one posted then Ebay could review the edit's on a case-by…

Online sites like eBay, always want to reduce their personnel costs. Dispute resolution should be a last ditch effort that exists to identify loopholes in a system that should ideally NEVER need dispute resolution.

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Post by zanny »

brk wrote: post #11

I stopped selling things like this on eBay a long time ago because I do not sell things frequently enough to keep up with the scams du jour. My local craigslist is where my for-sale items now go. Sure, I may get a little less than top-dollar for an item, or it might take a little longer to sell, but I'm never left with some after-the-fact dispute where I have no control (note: I'll only accept cash). eBay was fun whi…

Does anyone know of such a site? I recently came into possession of a deceased relatives various stuffs, and have a bunch of semi-recent semi-old computer parts to sell off, but have been hesitant to use ebay for this reason, but I don't live anywhere a local Craigslist would work (yay for rural).

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Post by rorrr »

grecy wrote: post #135
rorrr wrote: post #123

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Sue Paypal. It's an obvious scam, and they are, for some strange reason, ruling in favor of the scammer. Sue them for your money, for the time you spent dealing with them. Check out small claims court limits in your state, and sue them for the maximum. I bet you will win with all the documentation you have.

But didn't he agree to all this in the terms and conditions?

ToS are not always enforceable.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120907/15424120313/barne...

http://www.mashedreport.com/2010/07/29/website-terms-of-serv...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090508/0212134792.shtml

Though there have been cases where ToS were enforced.

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Post by rorrr »

ZoFreX wrote: post #115
rorrr wrote: post #111

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Ebay works great for buyers now, it just sucks for sellers. I buy on Ebay all the time, you can find all kinds of things there really cheap.

Have you ever tried to get your money back after getting scammed as a buyer?

Actually, I have. I got a knock-off memory card once. I threatened the seller with all kinds of things (basically send the feds after him), and he sent me the money back. Didn't even need to involve Ebay/PayPal.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

DanBlake wrote: post #41
DanBlake wrote: post #24

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The chance of getting scammed like this on eBay is less than 2% (maximum chargeback rate) Hence you are better selling 100 iPhones on eBay and taking the hit for two then sell all 100 on gazelle and not.

2% is a way higher number than reality. The amount of fraud on eBay is well, well below a 10th of a percent. Selling on craigslist and gazelle does not solve the issue. It could be lost in the mail or you could be robbed. Il take a 99% chance at getting twice my money than a 100% chance of getting half. To each his own though./

It's heavily skewed by category. For every Macbook or iPhone sale that goes awry, 10,000 Beanie Babies are traded between elderly housewives without incident.

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Post by Datonomics »

steve8918 wrote: post #52

The only logical conclusion that can be made from eBay's and Paypal's policies is that they no longer want small sellers to use them. They want professional sellers to sell from their site, people who are used to dealing with chargebacks, etc, and can foot the bill when it comes to chargebacks/fraud. They want to facilitate BUYING from regular people, but make SELLING by regular people very difficult. There is no oth…

Ebay needs a competitor.

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Post by freedom21 »

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