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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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This makes me sad since it implies that the best LLM I will ever be allowed to use is GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. Anything smarter than that is deemed too risky. So much wasted potential. And why would I pay Anthropic or OpenAI once consumer hardware gets powerful enough to run an open weight Chinese version of Opus 4.8? Even more so when mobile phones are able to run similar LLMs. Their financial growth looks doomed. It l…

That's not what is implied. Fable may still be widely available.

Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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post #369

This makes me sad since it implies that the best LLM I will ever be allowed to use is GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. Anything smarter than that is deemed too risky. So much wasted potential. And why would I pay Anthropic or OpenAI once consumer hardware gets powerful enough to run an open weight Chinese version of Opus 4.8? Even more so when mobile phones are able to run similar LLMs. Their financial growth looks doomed. It l…

The LLM improvement curve will level off and with so many AI engineering being in China they will catch up quickly.

The financial growth based on that everyone on earth will need to have an OpenAI or Anthropic subscription is quickly falling apart.

DeepSeek V4 is good enough for most of my work that that I can no longer justify paying 100x for something else. The cost difference is astronomical.

Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The US, under Trump, is a foreign policy disaster. The US, under every single president has been an imperialistic threat to half the world. From imposing embargoes, to overthrowing governments and supporting dictators and genocides all over the world. Half the world hates you, and the other half has begrudgingly no choice but to half assedly support the greatest threat that the world has ever known, a military in a…

I always find it strange to encounter people whose disposition to one violent imperial power is to welcome...more violent imperial powers. Strange form of sadomasochism.

No, you're just looking forward to being the only violent imperial power and to rule unopposed. the existence of another violent imperial power keeps you on a leash. It's not the best case scenario, but an unfettered and unrestricted united states spells doom for the world.

China also happens to be the one that's electrifying the world, producing and improving batteries, solar panels, has a long term plan while the US is going hurr durr VC money printing for smart dog food.

Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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> “I have determined that appropriate safeguards are in place to permit certain trusted partners to access the Claude Mythos 5 Model,” Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick wrote to Anthropic’s chief compute officer Tom Brown Friday why is the commerce secretary making this decision

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Does it apply to USA citizens and organizations as well?

Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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post #381
post #369

This makes me sad since it implies that the best LLM I will ever be allowed to use is GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. Anything smarter than that is deemed too risky. So much wasted potential. And why would I pay Anthropic or OpenAI once consumer hardware gets powerful enough to run an open weight Chinese version of Opus 4.8? Even more so when mobile phones are able to run similar LLMs. Their financial growth looks doomed. It l…

That's not what is implied. Fable may still be widely available.

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Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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post #381
post #369

This makes me sad since it implies that the best LLM I will ever be allowed to use is GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. Anything smarter than that is deemed too risky. So much wasted potential. And why would I pay Anthropic or OpenAI once consumer hardware gets powerful enough to run an open weight Chinese version of Opus 4.8? Even more so when mobile phones are able to run similar LLMs. Their financial growth looks doomed. It l…

That's not what is implied. Fable may still be widely available.

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Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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post #369

This makes me sad since it implies that the best LLM I will ever be allowed to use is GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. Anything smarter than that is deemed too risky. So much wasted potential. And why would I pay Anthropic or OpenAI once consumer hardware gets powerful enough to run an open weight Chinese version of Opus 4.8? Even more so when mobile phones are able to run similar LLMs. Their financial growth looks doomed. It l…

The last bit might be the point - this has all got a bit out of hand, the US government might have decided now is the time to prick this bubble.

Either because ordinary people hate it or (more likely) because Sam and Dario have got too powerful and they’re now starting to become a genuine rival castle to the US government in elite theory terms - of course at that point you get your wings clipped

Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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This is a pithy internet comment, but terrible advice. Between the Chinese government and Anthropic, I know which one I'd rather send tokens to. For all of the problems of the US, for-profit corporations, data harvesting, etc. the CCP (and, perhaps more troublesome, its allies) is far less likely to align with your interests.

I don't buy that anymore. The day America threatened to invade Canada and Denmark was the day America showed they cannot be trusted any more. It's not like China can be trusted either, but China isn't planning any direct invasions to the west. Taiwan, perhaps, but they're playing a long-term tactical game rather than a "invade the country we don't like this week" game. They might get some info on you, but the data br…

America can't be trusted since the patriot act - the day I said to myself I'll never visit.

And I can't trust my gov to grow some balls and say we will no longer negotiate with a senile old child raping man baby.

I can't even trust any company having their workers include or upload my data to a free AI model.

Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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China has been "going after" Taiwan for 80 years, so yeah, they are playing the long game. Wake me up when they start drone striking neighboring country's fishermen and accusing them of carrying drugs.

Throwaway account to leave a single comment minimizing the Chinese threat against Taiwan? Nah, nothing suspect about that. https://cset.georgetown.edu/article/a-different-kind-of-army...

Yeah, because criticizing the US, and/or making China look good can get you on certain lists. Maybe that is the reason?

FWIW I do not buy into the "China bad, we good" narrative either.

The US has done really fucked up things, bombed countries for freedom, there has been recent events as well. I do not even think they were ever the "good guys" they thought they are. In Hollywood movies, sure, but in reality? Nah.

Re: U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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I understand why Anthropic might not want to fight this particular one in court, because they're trying to convince the administration to let them move forward. But would another company who is not on the trusted partner list and has less to lose taking on the admin have standing to sue here? On the basis of the export control being illegal and this putting their business at a disadvantage vs. competitors with access

Technically the US government is allowing Anthropic to serve the models to any US citizen, and it's Anthropic who decided that's impossible to comply with and so they pulled the model for everyone. I guess a US business with non-citizen employees could work. A lawsuit would be a hard sell though, because Anthropic themselves argued that the technology is dangerous. Even if many people on HN might think that Anthropic…

> Anthropic themselves argued that the technology is dangerous

They said Mythos was dangerous, not Fable which is what got banned.

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