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PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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I own a playstation. I do not buy digital games, only discs. See the article for why not.

The game discs hold digital data. They're certainly not analog.

it's common to refer to download-only purchases as digital and discs as physical

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Jellyfin + Jellyseer + PassThePopcorn has served me and my friends/family well. I pay $50/mo now for a seedbox with 16TB but it serves 20 people. I would self-host for $0/month but my current apartment only has Xfinity, not AT&T and the upload isn’t enough to self-host. It’s less about the money and more about: 1) Having a single place to go for any TV show or movie. I found it very frustrating trying to figure out w…

How did you get a private tracker?

Personally, I got my first invite by signing up for a seedbox accepted by the tracker. Then I got invites to other trackers from the same group by being a good seeder.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jellyfin + Jellyseer + PassThePopcorn has served me and my friends/family well. I pay $50/mo now for a seedbox with 16TB but it serves 20 people. I would self-host for $0/month but my current apartment only has Xfinity, not AT&T and the upload isn’t enough to self-host. It’s less about the money and more about: 1) Having a single place to go for any TV show or movie. I found it very frustrating trying to figure out w…

How did you get a private tracker?

All the most popular stuff is easily available on public trackers. For older/obscure stuff, you can run your own tracker easily enough that scrapes the DHT, although you'll probably burn through an SSD doing it. https://bitmagnet.io is one such self-hosted piece of software.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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it should not be legal for the product page to say “purchase” or “buy” when in reality you’re only renting it with a to be determined end date

So... I used to work in the "digital movie & TV selling" industry. Our product detail pages, like pretty much all our competitors, had language on the call-to-action buttons that said "purchase" (and also, as an alternative, "rent," for 48- or 72-hour viewing).

At one point, about 10 years ago, one of the major Hollywood studios came to us and required us to change that because they believed that exactly this sort of thing would happen and we would all be setting ourselves up for liability because consumers would rightfully assume that that meant they owned the movie "forever."

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Renting what? The non-exclusive, revocable license? Because that's what purchase or buy means.

No, that’s not what “purchase” or “buy” means.

It literally is.

"Verb

"purchase (third-person singular simple present purchases, present participle purchasing, simple past and past participle purchased)

"To buy, obtain by payment of a price in money or its equivalent."

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/purchase

"Verb

"buy (third-person singular simple present buys, present participle buying, simple past bought, past participle bought or (archaic, rare, dialectal) boughten)

"(transitive, ditransitive) To obtain (something) in exchange for money or goods."

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/buy#English

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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it should not be legal for the product page to say “purchase” or “buy” when in reality you’re only renting it with a to be determined end date

Have you ever bought a ticket to a concert ? what did you actually own ?

I get the feeling, but this whole outrage about what words mean is sterile if you don't actually engage with what is sold here, by who from who, what was the contract, how it was setup and why.

How do you feel about the right holders who also didn't bother providing simple "buy, download and it's forever yours" avenues to get that content ? Or are you just happy being outraged and will go back to your daily life afterwards ? (that's what I'll do, because I was already renting stuff when video tapes were a thing, and I see the current situation as a logical equilibrium, including what happens on the seven seas)

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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For streaming yes, but downloads are still copyright infringement on the part of the downloader. An unauthorized copy is being made on the recipient's machine. It's true that copyright holders rarely pursue cases against individuals, and tend to focus on distributors though.

Have there been any cases since the Meta ruling with the books they torrented? If I understood it right they argued and won that they didn’t seed any of the torrents so is fair use and the judge agreed. That case made it seem like as long as you don’t seed/distribute the copyrighted material then it is legal

It's quite clearly explained on the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_aspects_of_file_sharing

> In the case of file sharing networks, companies claim that peer-to-peer file sharing enables the violation of their copyrights. File sharing allows any file to be reproduced and redistributed indefinitely. Therefore, the reasoning is that if a copyrighted work is on a file sharing network, whoever uploaded or downloaded the file is liable for violating the copyright because they are reproducing the work without the authorization of the copyright holder or the law.

Both uploading and downloading is a violation. All the major cases are against distributors, because those are the big fish. But rights holders have gone after individuals: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/lit...

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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This is making me mad enough that I’m going to spend my weekend figuring out a media server and pirating movies. If buying isn’t owning, pirating isn’t stealing. Fuck those guys. It’s been 20 years since I’ve pirated shit, but here we are again…

> If buying isn’t owning, pirating isn’t stealing

A queerly sticky ego defense mechanism.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Piracy is justified especially when it comes to movies! If I am buying a DVD, I own that copy regardless of the studio and the distributor being in legal trouble or not. If I "buy" or "purchase" something online, I expect the same thing. I'm not always a fan of the EU over-regulating some things but I feel like they should start fining companies who want to re-define the meaning of the word purchase

> If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/08/playstationed/#tyler-jame...

Piracy isn't stealing regardless of whether or not buying is owning.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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A Jellyfin or Plex server can be had for real cheap using used hardware. A Ryzen 3 build can be found for next to nothing here in Brazil[1], so I imagine it’d be even cheaper in the US.

Add an old Quadro card for hardware decoding, or go with an Intel CPU for Quick Sync, throw some IronWolf drives inside, install your favorite Linux distro, and you’re off to the races.

Yes, managing a server is more work than just signing up for Netflix or whatnot, but it’s definitely worth the effort.

[1]: A quick search shows me a Ryzen 3 3200G build with 16 GB of RAM for $200, and electronics are super expensive in Brazil.

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