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My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by armsaw »

marceldegraaf wrote: post #84
jordanf wrote: post #58

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cool, I didn't know Apple TV could be a Sunshine/Moonlight client!

It's perfect for gaming: silent, reliable network and Bluetooth, and supports basically any TV or projector. Works great with Xbox Elite controllers. Only downside is that keyboard/mouse can't connect to Apple TV, so it's controller-only.

I haven't had luck with mouse, but you can actually connect a bluetooth keyboard to the Apple TV. I use a little handheld unit from Rii and it works great.

For mouse, if you have an iOS device you can use the "Remote" widget on your phone as a mouse, and it works in the Moonlight client well enough to click through prompts etc.

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Post by reddalo »

staindk wrote: post #116
qwerpy wrote: post #113

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I tried using the official steam client on my TV (running some google/android TV OS) which was hard-wired in (100 Mbps) which should be sufficient for 1080p/60 if not 4K/60 but there is some android TV bug that adds an unacceptable audio lag. Video quality was fine. ( https://steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/0/62441675... ) Seems like a waste to use a steam deck for this when the TV hardware seems more than…

My TV was cheap so I didn't expect much. Steam link really struggles on it - thankfully I still have the old Steam Link hardware and it works alright. Locked to 1080p though. Refused to spend more on a TV because I feel you don't get much more processing power for an increase in price. All smart TVs I've interacted with in the last 5 years have been much slower than I would consider acceptable.

I'm still mad that Steam stopped producing the hardware Steam Link.

The app replacement is garbage (and not because of the app itself, but because of Android and the fact that most TV have garbage hardware).

I wish Steam would release a new 4k Steam Link, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

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Post by reddalo »

abbefaria27 wrote: post #105

I don’t understand why the Steam Machine is getting so much hate. The form factor is amazing and a huge part of the value proposition. It’s slightly bigger than a box of Kleenex and you can put it next to the TV, on your desk, etc. I’m tempted to get one just to free up the floor space used by my ATX case. The graphics capability seems good enough, most people can live without 4k gaming.

I wish I could buy the Steam Machine. I just can't afford it. The high price is probably why people "hate" it.

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Post by jrm4 »

bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

So, I just discovered MoCa Coax in the house, and it's the kind of thing that makes me feel silly, especially since we don't have cable tv. I suppose it's because of the ubiquitousness of "wireless."

Anyway, will be looking into all of this soon.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by pitaj »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #72

My gaming PC motherboard recently sh*t the bed. It was over 10 years old and I’ve beaten that thing up quite a bit. It’s Zen 1, so new MOBO basically means like 70% new PC. Before the price was announced I figured I’d look into a Steam Machine because I also want a well-supported Linux box for coding. I already have a PS5 Pro - which turned out to actually be a decent investment because the price has been increased m…

Motherboards are actually stupid cheap right now, especially secondhand. I'd look into that some more.

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Post by jrm4 »

awakeasleep wrote: post #93
shepherdjerred wrote: post #83

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I have a gaming PC and a steam deck. My goal was to use my steam deck as a steam link (their old streaming hardware) w/ a Xbox controller Both are connected via Ethernet and actually the video quality was very very good, and input lag was completely fine. Unfortunately there were so many issues. I want a console like experience where I can just decide that i want to pick up a controller and play. With this setup I ha…

Along with the complexity you mention, a real dealbreaker for me is controller support for couch co-op/multiplayer. It's the biggest difference and flaw between steam devices and traditional consoles. Even hugely popular multiplayer titles like Overcooked either don't work, or require hours of research and configuration.

This is such a baffling claim? I've had very close to zero issues with couch gaming with my steam deck + wireless xbox controllers. They overwhelmingly just work. Including Overcooked?

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Post by kulahan »

bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

Out of curiosity, why not use a $10 steam link to achieve a similar effect to using a $700 gaming tablet?

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Post by mrandish »

I use Sunshine streaming from my home office gaming PC (4070Ti Super) via 1Gbps Ethernet to a "Google Chromecast with Google TV" streaming dongle running the Moonlight client in our dedicated home theater room. The streaming dongle is powered via a USB-C hub that has an Ethernet port and the HDMI output is plugged into a Denon AVR as an input source.

The AVR outputs to a ceiling mounted laser projector with 150" screen. We run games at 4K HDR10 / 60 fps with no latency I can detect. The key is avoiding wifi and testing actual point to point throughput (I run a local instance of OpenSpeedTest). The streaming stick gets around 320 Mbps which is more than fast enough (it's capped by the Android TV CPU and poorly optimized driver stack).

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Post by torben-friis »

pipes wrote: post #100
bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

I'm missing something here, are you streaming from your pc on to your deck? But then why would you need a dock?

To the tv through the deck, is what I understood (maybe not using the smart features of the tv?)

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Post by Barrin92 »

abbefaria27 wrote: post #105

I don’t understand why the Steam Machine is getting so much hate. The form factor is amazing and a huge part of the value proposition. It’s slightly bigger than a box of Kleenex and you can put it next to the TV, on your desk, etc. I’m tempted to get one just to free up the floor space used by my ATX case. The graphics capability seems good enough, most people can live without 4k gaming.

>I’m tempted to get one just to free up the floor space used by my ATX case

if you're willing to spend a grand just to free up a few inches of floor space I don't think you're going to understand the reaction of the average consumer to prices in the current economic climate

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