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My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by jorvi »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #8
the_gipsy wrote: post #6

"50ft" are 15 meters.

"HDMI" is proprietary worse DP

DisplayPort still doesn't have anything as good as CEC. DDC/CI exists and bizarrely enough has existed for much longer than CEC (since the DVI port era), but DisplayPort Alliance has never bothered to standardize it and iterate on it.

For example, some monitors crash if you read any value from the monitor, so you can only blindly send brightness or volume levels. Some internally use 255 instead of 100. Some have crappy flash and you will wear it out by sending values constantly. Etc, etc.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by noxvilleza »

bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

With Sunshine (I looked at it ages ago but totally forgot about it), do you have to be logged in order to accept clients? With Steam remote play streaming it won't let me stream unless I'm logged in - which is a problem given that I leave my PC (Windows 10). in my bedroom and I don't want to leave it unlocked.

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Post by yellow_lead »

bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

Do you find Sunshine to be better than Steam's streaming?

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Post by MemoryHoleHQ »

bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

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Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by Fnoord »

saltmate wrote: post #9

Does anyone have a proper (and not overly expensive) solution for also moving input devices somewhere else? My main device is not in the same room as my TV.

With usbip you can run a USB device remotely as if it is local. You could use this to, for example, access a printer remotely (Wireguard would also allow you this). I went for fiber in my home, through the walls mostly. Also still some legacy twisted pair (esp. PoE).

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Post by mr3mpty »

saltmate wrote: post #9

Does anyone have a proper (and not overly expensive) solution for also moving input devices somewhere else? My main device is not in the same room as my TV.

I run 25 meters AOC HDMI, the problem was to pull it through pipe in the floor to the living room - those connectors are quite bulky. Some AOC cables come with mini-hdmi and, an adapter to the full size, but it wasn't available for HDMI 2.1 at the time. Works flawlessly. To switch between display on the desk and living room I run a small DIY java app in windows (shouldn't be a problem to run it on Linux), MQTT + home assistant as a remote app. I didn't play with CEC.

More interesting is a USB setup at this distance. I picked Ethernet - USB 2.0 converter and a simple USB hub with external PSU in the living room, $30. This enables BT, xbox360 dongles, keyboards. I didn't go with USB 3 as its expensive and unnecessary.

EDIT: It's easier to find under 'usb extender over ethernet', and I double check mine ATEN UEC260 costs closer to ~100$ now, way more expensive compared to what it used to be. It requires a dedicated CAT5 cable, it cannot go through any networking devices.

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Post by jordanf »

tskulbru wrote: post #19

Ive been using Moonlight on my Apple TV, with a 8bitdo controller connected to the Apple TV. My gaming computer is running bazzite and runs Sunshine as streaming server and it handles basically any game. I did use Steam Remote Control earlier but i found it quite unstable and slow compared to Sunshine which basically just works out of the box. Ive beaten Silk song and Elden ring on the setup. Its just wired 1gb netwo…

cool, I didn't know Apple TV could be a Sunshine/Moonlight client!

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by jon-wood »

willis936 wrote: post #46
tskulbru wrote: post #19

Ive been using Moonlight on my Apple TV, with a 8bitdo controller connected to the Apple TV. My gaming computer is running bazzite and runs Sunshine as streaming server and it handles basically any game. I did use Steam Remote Control earlier but i found it quite unstable and slow compared to Sunshine which basically just works out of the box. Ive beaten Silk song and Elden ring on the setup. Its just wired 1gb netwo…

I have a very similar setup. On Ubuntu (wayland only) I had to build sunshine for support. There is also always the bootstrapping issue for logging in when locked. Yes, I can physically log in, but I'd like something a little easier. Remote desktop is actually quite a bit of a headache and locked down in annoying ways by gnome.

I have some terrible NixOS hacks on my desktop machine which bridges Home Assistant via MQTT to some configuration around which video and audio outputs should be used, and whether my login manager should automatically log in as my user account running Steam Big Picture or wait for auth before starting Niri. Its certainly not anywhere near as smooth as having a Steam Machine under the TV, and I don't love that I have to run a machine that makes the room several degrees warmer while running, but it does have the advantage of being free apart from the time spent making it work.

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Post by Fizz43 »

bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

what settings are you using? Game streaming from my PC to my steamdeck over ethernet for me feels like absolute shit. The quality gets destroyed every time i rotate the camera even on 1080p
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