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If I were them, I'd have changed copy and probably done some internal testing to smooth rough edges/improve where needed but sounds like they're moving as quickly as possible.
If they did just copy paste code, straight to jail...
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They’re not really, it’s just the YC hype cycle. The business is selling insurance to other YC startups with some AI flair. They’re not even the first YC startup to do this, a previous YC insurance startup was acquired a few years ago for ~$1bn. So, they’re worth 3x the exit of the exact same company… because of what, AI? The fact that they’re cloning other software to release SaaS products is extremely bearish. Why…
Listened to the founder on 20VC episode talk endlessly about sleeping and showering in the office and comparing their insurance company to Alexander the Great and Napoleon. Silicon Valley is just so disconnected from reality.
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He was bragging about working on weekends and comparing his shitty little insurance company to the Manhattan Project a while back. Somewhere he claimed this company/industry is the most important application of AI in the world. I have no doubt they ripped it off, this guy is not trustworthy to say the least.. https://x.com/nico_laqua/status/2061130574358773852?s=20
Any long-distance bike ride/race fans here? the Tour Divide just completed and the record was shattered, not by riding for as long as possible, but with detailed planning, a dialed setup and getting a (relatively) lot of sleep & rest. Seems like this approach is applicable to many domains, but it's a lot more work than the obvious approach of "work more".
Why are people using what used to be Twitter in seriousness?
Its where the community is despite the loud minority online pretending thats not the case
Clearly, "the community" is not all on X. If it were, why would we be having conversations here on Hacker News?
Anyways, the real answer you'll still see some X links here is that
1. A not insignificant amount of people in our industry are aligned with the X CEO and the positions he expresses through his accounts, Grok, etc., and
2. Pornography
One other Twitter comments reveals that they probably just asked an AI to copy Papermark. Evidenced by AI comments saying the page was aligned to the "reference" https://xcancel.com/ffumarola/status/2070479755892371713#m
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> I am curious how this will play out legally I am curious if/how YC will handle this to get ahead of earning a reputation of being a den of scammers - a few months after the Delve scandal
> I am curious if/how YC will handle this to get ahead of earning a reputation of being a den of scammers flock is a YC company, so it's pretty clear that YC does not care about a negative reputation. as long as it makes money, nothing else matters.
Perhaps not what the general public thinks, but I assume YC cares a lot about its reputation among VC firms that fund its companies, because VCs don't like being scammed (directly, or indirectly through unknowingly funding scams)
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> Corgi were paying Dropbox thousands of dollars per month for DocSend. That's like, nothing, for a company in the insurance business valued at 3b
turns out it was less than $1,000 per month. A startup raises ~$100m at a ~$3bn valuation and forms a team of 12 employees including their Head of Operations to build a clone of a product they pay less than $1,000/month for while they have more than 50 open roles they are hiring for. Hmmm, yes, a very good use of available resources. https://xcancel.com/SergioGarc20223/status/20702512486962956...
Their response: > The team that made dataroom has stated that they did not use any of papermark’s code and that dataroom was made from scratch with inspiration from existing document sharing softwares, and that this post’s allegations of us stealing code are false. [...] The screenshots clearly show they copied whole pages verbatim, both design and texts. The founder, Nico Laqua, basically responding with "we didn't…
Being a bot of a devils advocate here. What I do not understand if it just looks similar, or implements the same features, or the code is actually copied and modified, i.e. the source is obviously from papermark. I think interfaces can be copied, thinking along the lines of implementing a protocol or a feature, so that would be legit. The UI looks very similar but if this is a totally different code then what? is it…
The English verbiage is identical. That's a clear copyright violation even if the codebase is otherwise unique.
When everyone is using LLMs to suggest IA, build basic UIs, dump out your startup in a day, etc. everything will look the same, even the source code. There will be no way to litigate this. Does it benefit society to force two companies to make their products look different? Where’s the outrage over all basic pencils looking the same? Let the market decide which pencils it prefers.
> Where’s the outrage over all basic pencils looking the same? This would fall under patents (design patent at the very least), not copyright. Furthermore, the English verbiage between the two are literally exactly the same. That's a clear copyright violation.