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Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by noxer »

basilikum wrote: post #199
noxer wrote: post #94

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This is bad advice that is being repeated over and over by the so called tech influencers. You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. And for the foreseeable future you gain nothing at all. If one day the normal version acctually stops reviving security updates, it almost certainly will be possible to switch the updat…

> You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. Good. This is exactly why people recommend it.

Try read maybe? There is no benefit to switch to LTSC because normal windows 10 is EOL there are no updates/no features updates and thus all the benefits LTSC HAD are moot. Its a total waste of time to switch to LTSC. A clean switch needs a full reinstallation.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by noxer »

kasabali wrote: post #194
noxer wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is bad advice that is being repeated over and over by the so called tech influencers. You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. And for the foreseeable future you gain nothing at all. If one day the normal version acctually stops reviving security updates, it almost certainly will be possible to switch the updat…

> You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. That's some very confident sounding bullshit . Latest LTSC is 21H2, which exactly the same build as the (non-LTSC) 22H2. The only difference is the feature enablement package. Which means you aren't lacking any optimizations. I'm not even sure if it's missing any "features"…

So you suggest switch over to LTSC for having the exact same OS because it's better? Make it make sense pls. I'm confident became I have tired it all and LTSC has zero benefit and only possible downsides. All the benefits it once had are irrelevant nowadays because windows 10 is EOL and there are no more annoying updates regardless of which version you use.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by noxer »

oreally wrote: post #210
noxer wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is bad advice that is being repeated over and over by the so called tech influencers. You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. And for the foreseeable future you gain nothing at all. If one day the normal version acctually stops reviving security updates, it almost certainly will be possible to switch the updat…

> which for most people likely wasting sever hours Yea I don't think you understand who uses windows and for what..

I know that no one who uses it likes to reinstall it unless absolutely necessary. Its pointless in this case so what's your argument? That people should waste more time becase they already waste time? Genius /s

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by noxer »

hulitu wrote: post #209
noxer wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is bad advice that is being repeated over and over by the so called tech influencers. You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. And for the foreseeable future you gain nothing at all. If one day the normal version acctually stops reviving security updates, it almost certainly will be possible to switch the updat…

> you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10 Like improved animations, more wasted space and rounded windows corners ?

No, its 99% binary equal and there are no rounded corners in window 10 anyway.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by Austizzle »

h4kunamata wrote: post #211
Austizzle wrote: post #207

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There are plenty of popular games that don't work on Linux, a notable example being Fortnite. One of the most popular games of all time.

>There are plenty of popular games that don't work on Linux Games that require kernel level spyware installed??? Good luck getting a Linux user to do make such stupid choice. Giving you a company kernel level aka full access to your operating system just to play a game. Yeah mate, normal people won't do that. Fortnite?? Couldn't give half care about this game.

You don't need to like Fortnite. There are plenty of other games in the same boat.

The point is that "normal people won't do that" is objectively false. Fortnite is just a good example because it's so popular.

At any given moment there are tens or hundreds of thousands of normal people playing Fortnite, on windows, with anti cheat on.

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Post by not_a9 »

LtWorf wrote: post #163
hypfer wrote: post #126

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At this point, you might want to consider throwing an LLM at it and just letting it reimplement the thing so that it runs on linux. They can actually do that. They may not like it, but they can.

Reverse engineer a binary proprietary database format? I have some doubts.

The slop engine can drive IDA just fine. Does hitch a bit on obfuscated code, but with some poking it does fine there too.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by not_a9 »

h4kunamata wrote: post #211
Austizzle wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of popular games that don't work on Linux, a notable example being Fortnite. One of the most popular games of all time.

>There are plenty of popular games that don't work on Linux Games that require kernel level spyware installed??? Good luck getting a Linux user to do make such stupid choice. Giving you a company kernel level aka full access to your operating system just to play a game. Yeah mate, normal people won't do that. Fortnite?? Couldn't give half care about this game.

> kernel level spyware

What does it spy on? I can only assume you’ve fully devirtualized and reversed Easy Anti-Cheat to be making such statements

> full access to your operating system

Man Epic Games must be cooking if they can poke at VTL1

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Post by Grombobulous »

throwawaytea wrote: post #204
Grombobulous wrote: post #172

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Anyone with a smartphone can be a gamer. I think my mom playing Wordle on her smartphone does indeed make her a gamer.

Yes and the world has 6 billion researchers too because we Google things. It's a lot more useful though when words have meaning and we take them seriously, otherwise nothing really makes sense.

I think you would agree that playing games and being a researcher are very different levels of depth. If you have decent public transit in your area, you'll definitely see at least one person on your commute playing some kind of candy crush-like phone game every single day. Yes, that's a "gamer."

Humans by their very nature use games to pass time and stimulate their mind and body, it's one of the most universal things about us.

That game of Wordle my mom plays once per day is probably what keeps her paying a subscription to NYT. That's real money. She'd probably drop the subscription otherwise.

NYT sells a games-only subscription for $50/year, $80/year per family. I think NYT executives would be happy to consider someone who plays games for 5 minutes per day or even 5 minutes per week a gamer.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by Grombobulous »

lazide wrote: post #202
Grombobulous wrote: post #174

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I appreciate the fact that you sent over a very good paper. After reading it, I am still not sure I see how this is particularly alarming information. I can see how it would help a forensic investigator who has physical access to the device. The most personal aspect seems to be the list of installed and removed programs, which I would agree is stepping across boundaries of privacy. The paper notes that this whole stu…

The typical response if someone comes knocking is ‘I don’t know what you’re talking about’. And really, how would they prove it unless you left a stack of printouts next to the door? Now they could prove it was your printer (and that has happened multiple times in prosecutions!), even if you printed it years ago. You don’t see how that is a problem?

I think there are a lot of things that are potentially problematic where we depend on having a functioning society with real legal protections and due process.

Nobody can come in my house without a judicial warrant. And, hopefully, someday there are better privacy laws in the US that mean that Microsoft must handle its collected data more responsibly.

If your society has succumbed to serious oppression, does evidence really matter anyway? If the cartel is knocking on your door, do they need evidence to do what they want to do?

Evidence itself is just evidence. It can condemn you and it can exonerate you. If it can be proved that something came from my printer, that means my lawyer can also prove something didn't come from my printer.

I am by no means saying that I would personally willingly sign up for telemetry, or that I think it's better to have than not. I'm just not in alarm over it because I think that response is disproportional.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by Spoom »

hypfer wrote: post #151
Grombobulous wrote: post #146

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I am a gamer who uses Linux! Gaming on Linux is lovely. I actually left Windows to fix driver stability, which worked and did the trick. I couldn’t play Indiana Jones without crashing. I should have maybe been more clear (grandparent to your comment) that I didn’t mean to be out defending Windows or anything like that. I migrated away from Windows this year. I just find that the arguments for sticking to Windows 10 a…

So you're saying the cutting edge HDR features(?) in windows 11 are not all that important to you personally and thus do not warrant windows 11 usage? Makes sense, yeah. Nice talking to you.

FWIW HDR works fine in Linux. Steam Deck (which runs it) has HDR support, both for its interface and for games. Bit confused by your comment, honestly.
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