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The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy

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Re: The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy

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I am glad that more and more people wake up to the highly criminal age sniffing movement. That age sniffing movement, sometimes called age verification to insinuate a more harmless movemet, wants to destroy the anonymous internet as we knew it; see their fight against VPNs. This is not accidental - this is very integral to this evil movement.

The only logical consequence and response to that is to completely abolish those lobbyists that work against freedom.

Re: The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy

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Imagine there’s a hit list circulating on Signal with your name on it, and an anonymous user is offering $5,000 for your head.

Or imagine your daughter is getting blackmailed by some anonymous pedophile freak over Snapchat.

Nah, I need stronger arguments for why anonymity on the web is a human right.

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There is a much easier solution that already exists - parental controls on children's devices. I honestly don't understand why is it not solving the problem? Yes, parents are responsible to set this up. But parents are also responsible to lock their alcohol, drugs or guns, condoms, etc., and many other things. Perhaps parental controls are not good enough? That's where the regulation could genuinely help - require ch…

I don't understand why the act of buying internet access isn't considered a parental control. I doubt very many kids are doing it or can. Ok, but parents buy internet access and then let their kids use it, because the kids need it for school. So? The parents job is to keep their kids out of trouble. Learning how to keep track of what their kids access shouldn't be difficult, and maybe should be part of the obligation…

>The parents job is to keep their kids out of trouble.

I challenge that anyone believes this, and for my evidence, I would submit all the age based laws that protect children regardless of what parents do.

We have already, long ago, decided that it is the government's job to protect children, at least in cases where parents fail to do an adequate job. That's why I don't see this ending any other way. The march to total domination by the side of the government might be slow, but they already won the war around a century ago (exact timeline for laws protecting children in place of parents is a very long topic and does differ country to country, I recall hearing some places still even let kids buy alcohol if they say it is for their parents to consume).

Re: The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy

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I don't think they are going to make libraries illegal mate.

Libraries track what books you read (nowadays via some database and in the past via paper)

They track what you lend, not what you read. Many people just read on location.

Re: The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy

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There are at least some technological solutions here, such as anonymous credentials. [1] Modern versions of this technique allow one to associate metadata (like a proof of age exceeding a threshold) in such a way that the verifier can't even correlate repeated requests across users. Governments that are serious about age verification and individual privacy (which, doubtful they truly are) should agree on a protocol a…

The article talks about the possibilities of malicious cloning of these tokens by third parties, but fails to identify the much more common use case, and one that makes this scheme useless for age verification. It's one thing to be concerned about someone stealing my credential, but another to prevent the transfer of these credentials, especially if they are limited use credentials. The entire point of age verificati…

> The entire point of age verification systems is to prevent minors from accessing certain resources.

Then why are they forbidding VPNs?

This is clearly NOT a use case that is solely referring to minors.

The whole cake is a lie and so is your assumption that age sniffing is "to protect children".

> Keep dreaming of a technological solution

We don't "dream" - we know what is possible and what is not.

Mass surveillance of everyone is simply not an option.

> Let individual parents decide on the level of harm that they are willing to accep

Nobody has an issue IF it were about individual parents, but it clearly is not. Governments try to criminalize and restrict everyone - and that is the true agenda.

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The anti-authoritarian, anti-government, anti-fascist, anti-capitalist music genre punk rock? Always right wing? I mean, Nazis have always been attracted to punk because they like the loud noise but are too stupid to understand lyrics, but they tend to get their shit kicked in by punks more often than not. I don't think that's the same thing.

Sure thing, i.e. Egor Letov

The Ramones were divided politically, if I remember rightly. One of them was on the moderate right.

In the UK, there was also the Rock against Communism movement which came out of the far right faction of punk and was a response to Rock against Racism.

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This seems to come up in every discussion, in practice it’s irrelevant both because it’s too complicated for normal people to understand, and because the point of all this nonsense really is identification so anything that defeats that will be a non starter.

It doesn't have to be too complicated for normal people to understand. Majority of people understand their SIN or SSN number or whatever, they understand they have a drivers license number. This could be built in such a way that it's basically just be another government issued "thing" that they have to know about and be able to produce when requested

> that it's basically just be another government issued "thing" that they have to know about and be able to produce when requested

During COVID, there were protests about "vaccine passports" and masks. My state legislature tried introducing bills that would outlaw such things. In 2024, in several states (including mine), legislators introduced bills that would outlaw mRNA (and every vaccine made from it) [0]. REAL ID took almost 2 decades to get every state to implement it until the feds threatened to close all (commercial) airports in states refusing to implement it.

Notes:

0 - every year one of my legislators introduces a bill to outlaw chemtrails. This year, he added the plot of Termination Shock to his bill.

Bill to make "pureblood" a thing:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250118232059/https://apps.legi...

Bill to outlaw chemtrails & Termination Shock:

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/26rs/hb60.html

Re: The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy

#408

And we all know why lolberts are worried about kids and privacy online... Regret voting for Trump yet, chuds? You can't hide once we know who you are.

Have you ever heard the joke, how do you know if someone does CrossFit? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you In my experience Trump supporters aren’t exactly quiet about it.

Oh, not all of them. There were too many for that to be all of them. But this "secret ballot" nonsense won't protect them for much longer. Consequences.

Re: The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy

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There is a much easier solution that already exists - parental controls on children's devices. I honestly don't understand why is it not solving the problem? Yes, parents are responsible to set this up. But parents are also responsible to lock their alcohol, drugs or guns, condoms, etc., and many other things. Perhaps parental controls are not good enough? That's where the regulation could genuinely help - require ch…

There is a bootlegger and baptist thing going on here. One understandable point of view is that of parents that control their kids' phones, but other parents in the community do not. Then their kids are the only ones in the class without tiktok or Instagram or something. For those parents life is easier if nobody is allowed on these things.

> For those parents life is easier if nobody is allowed on these things.

Get over it, and stop caring how other people parent their kids. Or, better yet, learn from them.

Re: The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy

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I am always surprised that people get shocked when online privacy is put at risk, as if it was a fundamental human right. REMOTE PRIVACY NEVER EXISTED BEFORE A FEW DECADES AGO! And what happened in these decades are enough for the societies to wonder whether this new possibility in human connections (i.e. remote privacy) is globally a good thing. Just stomping your feet because the new toy may be declared illegal is…

You see, when the governments are outraged that they can't monitor all facets of communication or are disallowed from using their shiny new ways to automatically observe and categorize billions of datapoints to automatically surveil-by-default millions of people, that is called having serious doubts and grave concerns, very important stuff. When the people are outraged that a freedom they've enjoyed for several decad…

You see, when someone talks about "the governments" without realising that they do represent the people in a democracy, their ignorance show so much that it is difficult for them to attract any sympathy in those places where the laws are discussed.
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