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Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

#901
Definitely not justified. You think Apple doesn't have warehouses of hardware. It's climate inflation based on a narrative they can exploit because of data centers being in the headlines. Smart, obvious, move because no one will jump ship.

Kinda like MAGA. Their hair could be on fire and everything is fine.

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#902
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Definitely not justified. You think Apple doesn't have warehouses of hardware. It's climate inflation based on a narrative they can exploit because of data centers being in the headlines. Smart, obvious, move because no one will jump ship. Kinda like MAGA. Their hair could be on fire and everything is fine.

They absolutely don't have warehouses of hardware. Tim Cook is a supply-chain-efficiency hawk from before he was CEO -- he was famous for reducing Apple's inventory.

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#903

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Sure do! Infant mortality lowest it has ever been in the history of man, we live the longest, our material welfare is the highest it has ever been! I have electricity, I can talk with friends all over the planet for free, instantly, I can get to anywhere on the planet within a day. I could go on and on forever. AI will crash, and once we're through the trough of disillusionment we'll see where it will shine and it wi…

> If anyone feels negative, I recommend seeing a psychologist. Telling everyone that disagrees with you to see a psychologist is certainly something. The delusions of grandeur may make your statement quite ironic, heh.

I could read this as black comedy.

"Take him to a psychologist" was standard playbook in soviet block to silence dissent. Everyone knows of the gulag archipelago but just declaring someone insane was part of the toolkit.

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#904

Anyone else here enjoy living in the future? Look at us, we get AI megacorporations ruling the world and bestowing us with the power to use their servers for just $20-200/month. It's practically charity, and all we had to give up for it is all consumer hardware, the quality of the internet and our own jobs. I love it here!

Sure do! Infant mortality lowest it has ever been in the history of man, we live the longest, our material welfare is the highest it has ever been! I have electricity, I can talk with friends all over the planet for free, instantly, I can get to anywhere on the planet within a day. I could go on and on forever. AI will crash, and once we're through the trough of disillusionment we'll see where it will shine and it wi…

Those living the longest are those born 75-85 years ago. Later generations will have to wait to assess how it ended for them.

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I know this is a bit off topic, but is anyone excited for the future? I'm only 20, but everyone used to talk about how excited they were for the future. I don't know anyone who is excited for the future. It upsets me I never got to live the "glory days" of cars, technology, outdoor activities, music, entertainment, etc. I only see it getting significantly worse too. It's hard not to fall into the trap of doomerism bu…

With all due respect, we have pills for obesity and computers think. If that doesn’t get you excited about the future, nothing will.

It's 40°C all over my home country right now. And as far as I am aware, each year is going to get worse, and the thinking computers are adding more fuel to the flame.

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#906

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1.16x simple mean on XBOX 1.22x simple mean on Apple Closer than I expected, but some products are quite the outliers. E.g. Apple TV is 1.54x. That's gotta hurt.

A good opportunity to move away from this tier of locked-down garbage devices, which include, among other, consoles (Xbox, PlayStation), streaming boxes (Apple, Amazon, Google), phones with locked bootloaders (Apple, Samsung), Internet-of-Shit home appliances that depend on the "cloud" and non-free apps, and others.

I am currently in projects using lots of open source hardware and SBCs and I would argue the price increases on those have been even worse (if they are available at all) because those companies are competing for the same components but without the buying power of Apple. It’s a bloodbath out there.

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#907
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I had just drafted a report to leadership that we should buy what we needed for everyone through August ASAP. My advice didn’t make it a week before the price increases. Look, this is going to suck for several more years. The western memory cartel was never truly dismantled or punished after their price fixing in the early 2000s, and now this is the result. With Chinese DRAM and NAND makers on the entity list, wester…

> With Chinese DRAM and NAND makers on the entity list, western countries don’t really have an alternative American companies, you mean. Thankfully there's Taobao and AliExpress for the rest of us.

That’s a fair critique of my limited, Ameri-centric perspective in my comment, but also a stinging rebuke of the decline of American hegemony abroad. As recently as last year having those Chinese DRAM and NAND makers on the entity list meant that those memory modules were unsellable outside of China and a handful of other countries that rebuked American power; the fact even American companies are now openly courting them for parts shows how weak the Empire’s power really is just two years later.

So yeah, you’re more right than you may realize.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

#908

I have a suspicion these new prices will stick around, even after the RAM shortage ends. Speaking of which, what's the timeline of the RAM shortage ending? I have no sense for whether it is going to be (for example) 6 months or 3 years.

as the line goes "wheat price goes up , bread price goes up. Wheat price goes down, bread price stays up"

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

#909

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

But back then the contemporaneous llm was the single digit mb file word_list.txt.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

#910
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These are the price changes mentioned in the article: Macs MacBook Neo: $699 (up from $599) 13-inch MacBook Air: $1,299 (up from $1,099) 15-inch MacBook Air: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M5 MacBook Pro: $1,999 (up from $1,699) M5 Pro MacBook Pro: $2,499 (up from $2,199) M5 Max MacBook Pro: $4,099 (up from $3,599) iMac: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M4 Max Mac Studio: $2,499 (up from $1,999) M3 Ultra Mac Studio: $5,299 (up from…

I think Apple could easily swallow these price hikes in its profit margin if it wanted to, but then its shareholders wouldnt have as pretty numbers to look at in their quarterly reports.

This is the explanation for almost all things done by public companies. The shareholders own the company. The numbers in the quarterly reports are important to them.
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