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Re: The AirPods Effect

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>> The moment I start talking to someone, automagically the NC is paused as well as any audio you were listening to. This is one of those features I thought would be great and unfortunately had to disable in minutes. If you ever listen to music and sing along, even for a few seconds, the volume cuts because it thinks you're talking to someone. It's a shame. There's so many really great AirPods features and I feel lik…

I work from home alone and frequently talk to my cats (I'm not crazy). Had to turn the feature off as well because of it.

Same, but for a dog

Re: The AirPods Effect

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> I cannot think of many opportunities the sound would save you as it’s already loud enough from wind noise alone I am a bit stunned reading this.. Is this a common perspective of motorcyclists?

> I am a bit stunned reading this.. Is this a common perspective of motorcyclists? No. For example, every beginner-advice thread in /r/motorcycle has a highly-upvoted comment(s) recommending ear protection, including many folks stating they wish they had started using it earlier. And even if it is conceded that sound may not save you from other vehicles, ear pro(tection) reduces the health risk of hearing loss that w…

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Re: The AirPods Effect

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> I cannot think of many opportunities the sound would save you as it’s already loud enough from wind noise alone I am a bit stunned reading this.. Is this a common perspective of motorcyclists?

Have you sat on a mktorcycle? The motor and air noise drowns out pretty much everything else anyway - I ride with good earplugs because I don't want to become (more) deaf. When you learn to ride a motorcycle you learn to look - look behind you when changing lanes, look in your mirrors, basically stay aware of whatever is happening at all times by looking. Because you're sure as hell not hearing a lot.

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Re: The AirPods Effect

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> I cannot think of many opportunities the sound would save you as it’s already loud enough from wind noise alone I am a bit stunned reading this.. Is this a common perspective of motorcyclists?

At highway speeds, the wind is loud. The engine is often loud even with a factory exhaust. The only audible signal that's likely to matter is a car horn, and those are loud enough to hear over music at reasonable volume. Cars are quieter, and hearing other vehicles is more likely. If anyone shouldn't listen to music, it's car drivers, not motorcyclists.

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Re: The AirPods Effect

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> I cannot think of many opportunities the sound would save you as it’s already loud enough from wind noise alone I am a bit stunned reading this.. Is this a common perspective of motorcyclists?

What is the stunning part? It’s not so much a perspective but pretty common safety advice, visual awareness is much more important than sound while operating a motorcycle. I suspect the gap is from folks who have only driven a car so there can be a sense of shock. Like all things it does depend on where you ride and the general driving culture. In America that’s how I ride but in Vietnam it’s very different. Road rul…

Thanks! I've learned something from the generous comments. Really appreciate the effort to educate me and give me a chance to understand without jumping on me :)

Re: The AirPods Effect

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> I feel like your conception that “ignoring people either consciously or through technology is rude” makes more sense in higher social trust situations. Yes, but I meant that the more people who block everyone out by default, passively and indiscriminately, contributes to social rust rather than trust. Ignoring or especially telling some people is not inherently rude or bad, but conducting yourself as though everyon…

> people who block everyone out by default, passively and indiscriminately, contributes to social rust rather than trust I'll turn this around: when I see people wearing headphones on the train or the bus, I appreciate that they respect everyone around them. Silence is a commons, and the headphone people respect that not everyone wants to hear their TikToks, their phone calls, their hallucinations, or their small tal…

There's a subtle difference between what each of us is describing I think. It seems you're arguing that wearing headphones in public isn't generally inherently rude, and you have a selection of anecdotes to support it, and I'd agree that those are plausible and fine.

Incidentally I have no interest in living in SF, Boston, or Japan for various reasons, but it is interesting that I also wouldn't necessarily anticipate they'd be suitable for completely random friendly, welcomed interactions, in transit or wherever. Japan gives me a very siloed, weirdly socially isolated vibe, Boston I haven't been to, and SF just gives me a sort of aggressive individualist capitalism achievement chasing vibe. California cities in general feel like a departure from what I like.

However, I'm not exclusively talking about literally accepting every random encounter in public transit or on the street only. In those places, you do have bars, gyms, third-spaces, cafes, etc.. that are for the most part, "public"; you should be able to connect with people in your community and avoid signalling that you aren't there to participate.

I'd basically agree that wearing headphones out in the world at all is not inherently rude, but wearing them in all of those places, an overwhelming majority of the time, intending to avoid almost any interaction with strangers, is deliberately socially rusty. It almost seems like a strawman I'm arguing against, but it's my impression that's what the ease of AirPods enable, compared to larger less-convenient headphones. You can leave your house with the AirPods in, no wires, take calls without your hands, go to the gym, do your shopping, go to the park, go for a jog, bike ride, and keep the world out end-to-end. It's my view that unless you have a real sensory issue, that's shit for everyone involved at some scale.

Edit: I'd accept that I may not have articulated that so well in prior comments, but thought the overall was implied to mean the degree to which AirPods uniquely enable this

Re: The AirPods Effect

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I just pretend I haven't noticed they have earbuds in and start talking to them. Virtually everyone seems happy to have an interaction, I get the feeling people are a bit starved for random friendly contact.

So you are bad at reading signs. And that "seems happy" may be just "are too polite to punch you".

when people don't want to talk, they keep one earbud in and the other ready to pop back in. then you say adios and move on. If someone punched me for a friendly comment It's clear who has the problem.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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I just pretend I haven't noticed they have earbuds in and start talking to them. Virtually everyone seems happy to have an interaction, I get the feeling people are a bit starved for random friendly contact.

I would get very irritated by such behavior. One reason I wear earbuds is to signal that I don't want to get talked to.

It's actually funny if you talk to a lot of people, to see that so many are really excited to have a real, random little chat or comment. Even funnier is seeing the people who have forgotten the small pleasures of living among others.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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I just pretend I haven't noticed they have earbuds in and start talking to them. Virtually everyone seems happy to have an interaction, I get the feeling people are a bit starved for random friendly contact.

> Virtually everyone seems happy to have an interaction If a stranger bothers me while I have my headphones on I may act friendly and polite, but I am actually very irritated.

It's actually funny if you talk to a lot of people, to see that so many are really excited to have a real, random little chat or comment. Even funnier is seeing the rare people who have completely forgotten the small pleasures of living among others.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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I just pretend I haven't noticed they have earbuds in and start talking to them. Virtually everyone seems happy to have an interaction, I get the feeling people are a bit starved for random friendly contact.

I don't wear AirPods/headphones of any sort in public but I don't like talking to strangers while out and about and get very uncomfortable since it's almost always someone trying to get something from me. But every time someone does randomly talk to me, I smile and laugh and I'm very cordial. Because people who approach strangers generally get quite angry when they're outright shot down. That doesn't at all mean I'm…

I think HN probably oversamples for people who like to be left alone, which I get. When I talk to strangers it's pretty easy to detect who would be open based on their clothing choices and body language.
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