Does windows have any other lockin then one click .exe running? Is there any other reason people choose to use it over linux? Stability is basically same too..
It's much less fiddly for games is the only reason for me.
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Linux is free and less wasteful on resources on the other hand.
It is, and if you can switch, it’s highly recommended. I have some pretty bespoke old RS-232 Windows software that was an absolute disaster to get working under Debian with Wine a few years back, so I (and others) might still need to keep a copy of Windows around.
Unironically, I had the most success with old windows programs not when using wine directly but using proton with steam. I personally use umu[1] to use proton without directly needing to run steam. I wrote a small KDE script for .exe files so I can just double click them and they run lol. Or for setups I can right click them and just install them as a setup and it automatically creates a app shortcut I can open.
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#143Does windows have any other lockin then one click .exe running? Is there any other reason people choose to use it over linux? Stability is basically same too..
It's nothing inherent about Windows (not even one-click .exe files), it's existing programs and drivers that only run on Windows, which of course only run on Windows because it was already popular.
For me it's MS Office. Sorry, but OpenOffice.org and the Google apps still don't come close. (And of course Office file formats are their own lock in, very analogously to the programs that run on Windows.)
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Very untrue for gaming in particular. For example, if you have an OLED or mini-LED monitor, you really don’t want to be on Windows 10 and miss out on HDR. And sure, you can say “well nobody has an OLED monitor,” but I’d remind everyone that OLED displays have been pretty much standard on every gaming laptop mid-range and higher for a decent amount of time now. A lot of the focus for Windows 11 development has been ga…
Most people are in fact not gamers. Like.. at all. And even those that are probably don't own an OLED or mini-LED monitor. Most people just want a computer that does the word, the chrome and that's about it.
Non gamers who need a PC (most people are mobile only now) can probably use Linux at this point.
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Do be aware that an autounattend.xml can cause Windows setup to execute arbitrary code. Their provenance matters too. It's relatively easy to encode scripts (or even binaries) into the XML to run during or after Windows setup. You can eyeball them, for sure, but I bet most people don't.
Indeed. I mention this in light of the high-profile supply-chain attacks recently across diverse platforms (Arch AUR, Shai-Hulud, etc). Any online tool that purports to modify an entire install medium should be heavily and continually scrutinised. I'm not saying the developer can't be trusted, but the infrastructure and people in general can't.
Fine, but this is Chris Titus we're talking about, not Red Star
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Most people are in fact not gamers. Like.. at all. And even those that are probably don't own an OLED or mini-LED monitor. Most people just want a computer that does the word, the chrome and that's about it.
Non gamers who need a PC (most people are mobile only now) can probably use Linux at this point.
I am a gamer who uses Linux! Gaming on Linux is lovely.
I actually left Windows to fix driver stability, which worked and did the trick. I couldn’t play Indiana Jones without crashing.
I should have maybe been more clear (grandparent to your comment) that I didn’t mean to be out defending Windows or anything like that. I migrated away from Windows this year.
I just find that the arguments for sticking to Windows 10 are super weak and overstated. Windows 11 is a decent OS and a clear improvement over 10, in my opinion. It’s just that for me, Linux is now better.
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#147And all of the 3 people using it will rejoice.
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#148Does windows have any other lockin then one click .exe running? Is there any other reason people choose to use it over linux? Stability is basically same too..
The lockin is that you buy a new computer, and when you turn it on Windows is there. Like 1% of people have any concept that they could change that or how they would go about it. It doesn't suck enough yet for them to try changing it.
If you want to talk about why not macOS or Chrome, there are different reasons, but of the people buying PCs, that's why they're on Windows.
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> so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10 Windows gets worse with each update, so this is actually a plus.
Very untrue for gaming in particular. For example, if you have an OLED or mini-LED monitor, you really don’t want to be on Windows 10 and miss out on HDR. And sure, you can say “well nobody has an OLED monitor,” but I’d remind everyone that OLED displays have been pretty much standard on every gaming laptop mid-range and higher for a decent amount of time now. A lot of the focus for Windows 11 development has been ga…
>you really don’t want to be on Windows 10 and miss out on HDR
My HDR monitor is connected to my Windows 10 machine and the HDR switch in settings is on and my monitor reports it is getting HDR
What am I supposedly missing?
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The average consumer doesn't care about signing up for an account, so that's an easy win for getting them in the email system and thereby tie all the telemetry events to an easily recognizable account. Imagine how valuable this information is. Now you have system level events tied to a user, that might also purchase an office product and pump out more events.
Well, they might still do it but less aggressively. For example, only when using MS Store or only some specific services. Apple uses a similar strategy with MacOS. Online accounts can also be convenient with with service integrations, provided they are optional. Also, I slightly disagree that average users don't care at all. Even setting aside ideological reasons, mandatory online accounts are terrible if there is no…
To download apps on an iphone, you need an apple id. This is just something every apple user has accepted since its inception. I would also be surprised if the majority of macOS/OSX users didn't have an apple id/icloud account.
This is not a new concept. What's new is that microsoft is enforcing it. But making it less obvious on how to disable the requirement when you install the OS. Or in most cases require hacks to do so.