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Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by layer8 »

RachelF wrote: post #60
senfiaj wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Windows 11 requiring TPM, Secure Boot and being all react wasn't great. For me a bigger concern is that Windows 11 requires MS account, and making harder and harder to bypass it. This is a disrespect for my freedom and privacy. The hardware is not the biggest issue because it might catch up eventually. https://waspdev.com/articles/2026-03-12/i-ll-probably-never-...

And in order to get the Windows 10 updates in the article, you need to sign up for an MS account, or pay them $30 a year not to spy on you.

You can bypass the account requirement using https://github.com/abbodi1406/ConsumerESU. Of course that isn’t endorsed by Microsoft.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by ragequittah »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #123
mawadev wrote: post #11

What even is Microsoft's strategy? Windows 11 requiring TPM, Secure Boot and being all react wasn't great. Now we have a hardware shortage and ai in everything. I miss the time when it was "My computer" and not "This PC". I just hope they keep Windows 10 around till 2030 and longer...

I don't think requiring secure boot is a big deal given every computer since Sandy Bridge iirc ships with it.

I also don't think it requires secure boot. I don't have it on currently (Windows 11 Pro).

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by nomel »

mawadev wrote: post #11

What even is Microsoft's strategy? Windows 11 requiring TPM, Secure Boot and being all react wasn't great. Now we have a hardware shortage and ai in everything. I miss the time when it was "My computer" and not "This PC". I just hope they keep Windows 10 around till 2030 and longer...

Old versions of Windows always fell out of support.

Some old versions of windows also had newer hardware requirements (95 dropped support for 16 bit systems, Vista required a DirectX9 GPU).

There's nothing really new here.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by Lammy »

mawadev wrote: post #11

What even is Microsoft's strategy? Windows 11 requiring TPM, Secure Boot and being all react wasn't great. Now we have a hardware shortage and ai in everything. I miss the time when it was "My computer" and not "This PC". I just hope they keep Windows 10 around till 2030 and longer...

>What even is Microsoft's strategy? Windows 11 requiring TPM, Secure Boot

Their goal is to help their OEM buddies sell new computers despite the fact that PCs have been “good enough” for a decade or longer, because those new PCs will come with Windows and the cycle is what keeps each one relevant.

Otherwise they'd risk being usurped, which almost happened circa 2006 with the one-two-three-four punch of GNOME2 (great UI), Compiz (‘wow’ factor that gets people to jump in and try it), OpenOffice-dot-org 2.0 (when OpenDocument Format was getting a ton of press), and Windows Longhorn/Vista being famously late-and-then-hated. Luckily for Microsoft, the Desktop Linux community decided to throw all that out with Wayland (which is Fine but set us back two decades) and GNOME3 which is irredeemable — *James Rolfe voice* what were they thinking??

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by Grombobulous »

hypfer wrote: post #130
Grombobulous wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are over 900 million PC gamers in the world. PCs have 43% marketshare in the total game console market. Yes, that includes marketshare against the Nintendo Switch. There’s a bit of a bubble of non-gaming in this forum, but gaming is definitely a top use case for PCs. Just walk into your local Best Buy in the laptop section and count up how many of the laptops are marketed as gaming systems. That should give you…

Yes and how many of those people have the cash for cutting edge tech? And how much does that cutting edge tech truly matter for the core game experience. I think the steam hardware survey might have some answers there and can tell us for which level of hardware currently developed games are being optimized for. And that's just the currently developed ones. Not the massive backlog that existed before OLED or microLED…

Certainly, I agree that most gamers do not have cutting edge tech.

The cutting edge tech does improve the core experience. Quite a lot. You do have to have the money for it, though, and like anything else, diminishing returns on investment.

Steam hardware survey shows Windows 11 gained 2% this month over Windows 10. That’s a significant rate of change.

I recognize that you don’t like my use of edits, however, they are part of this platform and I’m not using them to diss anyone or engage in any kind of negative conversation. Just trying to make my point and support it.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by x______________ »

ihalip wrote: post #52
vunderba wrote: post #47

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It is, and if you can switch, it’s highly recommended. I have some pretty bespoke old RS-232 Windows software that was an absolute disaster to get working under Debian with Wine a few years back, so I (and others) might still need to keep a copy of Windows around.

Might want to try again, Wine progressed a lot in the past couple years.

> Might want to try again, Wine progressed a lot in the past couple years.

You could even go as far as suggesting SteamOS once they release the OS to more devices. Gaming themed sure but it's a flavor of Arch and you have full control over what gets installed.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by bluetidepro »

nitrat3 wrote: post #136

Does windows have any other lockin then one click .exe running? Is there any other reason people choose to use it over linux? Stability is basically same too..

Gaming support for Linux still isn’t 100% there like Windows. It’s still about a 50/50 chance a popular AAA or indie pc game supports Linux.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by senfiaj »

martinjc wrote: post #128
senfiaj wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Windows 11 requiring TPM, Secure Boot and being all react wasn't great. For me a bigger concern is that Windows 11 requires MS account, and making harder and harder to bypass it. This is a disrespect for my freedom and privacy. The hardware is not the biggest issue because it might catch up eventually. https://waspdev.com/articles/2026-03-12/i-ll-probably-never-...

The average consumer doesn't care about signing up for an account, so that's an easy win for getting them in the email system and thereby tie all the telemetry events to an easily recognizable account. Imagine how valuable this information is. Now you have system level events tied to a user, that might also purchase an office product and pump out more events.

Well, they might still do it but less aggressively. For example, only when using MS Store or only some specific services. Apple uses a similar strategy with MacOS. Online accounts can also be convenient with with service integrations, provided they are optional. Also, I slightly disagree that average users don't care at all. Even setting aside ideological reasons, mandatory online accounts are terrible if there is no internet or the system must be preinstalled for another person (although the person who installs is not that average user). The system should be functional in offline mode.
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