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How much do you really hate a company if you're still going to give them money regularly to use their products?
Corporate gives them money. I have no choice in that decision. Corporate expects me to use it. I have no choice there either. Yes, I'm trying to leave. Guess how fun AI has made that process
Why Does Everyone Hate AI?
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Within software too.
Software quality assurance can be automated in a way that artistic and textual quality can't. That doesn't give you good taste , but .. for yer basic line of business or enterprise app, expectations were already low, and most websites have user-hostile design written into the requirements, so the damage isn't too bad. I do think we've yet to see what the worst case for government contractor software project + vibe co…
A lot of companies are creating AI assistants which take otherwise deterministic processes and makes them nondeterministic.
For example, I work in financial services and deal with a lot of data vendors. One of the big ones very recently added a chatbot to their UI, which on the second question I asked, provided entirely incorrect numerical but with confidence and 3-decimal place precision.
So the chatbot makes it "easier" to ask things, because you don't need to know which tab in the UI to use / or code to write in their scripting interface / or function to call in their Excel interface / or parameters to pass to get the correct answer.
Unfortunately the chatbot also may completely mistranslate your question, call the wrong function/pass wrong parameters and feed you back nonsense confidently.
Who is this helping?
Re: Why Does Everyone Hate AI?
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Software quality assurance can be automated in a way that artistic and textual quality can't. That doesn't give you good taste , but .. for yer basic line of business or enterprise app, expectations were already low, and most websites have user-hostile design written into the requirements, so the damage isn't too bad. I do think we've yet to see what the worst case for government contractor software project + vibe co…
Interesting thought. So maybe this answers the question of whether coding is art or science.
The science part is that the outcomes are scientifically verifiable, hence tests.
The art part is that unlike the physical world with the laws of physics, there are nearly limitless ways in code to accomplish those outcomes.
Re: Why Does Everyone Hate AI?
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> ship around 3x to 5x faster Web apps and CRUDs, if may I ask? Or is AI helping you with something that you couldn't ever do by yourself? I have mixed results across different technologies like frontend, backend, infra and hardware.
I am a backend dev, and building a mobile app for the first time, It is a toy sized project right now and it works, would have indeed taken me 5x the time to get to that point on my own. I know from experience that to make it a non-toy project I am probably going to need to spend some, if not most of that saved time cleaning up in the future due to technical debt. For backend, it is mildly useful at best, helpful wit…
It's much easier to take "well now I have an app, which after using for a bit I find it sucks in " and then fix them, than it is to start from absolutely nothing.
Re: Why Does Everyone Hate AI?
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Software quality assurance can be automated in a way that artistic and textual quality can't. That doesn't give you good taste , but .. for yer basic line of business or enterprise app, expectations were already low, and most websites have user-hostile design written into the requirements, so the damage isn't too bad. I do think we've yet to see what the worst case for government contractor software project + vibe co…
> Software quality assurance can be automated in a way that artistic and textual quality can't. A lot of companies are creating AI assistants which take otherwise deterministic processes and makes them nondeterministic. For example, I work in financial services and deal with a lot of data vendors. One of the big ones very recently added a chatbot to their UI, which on the second question I asked, provided entirely in…
You can't put an AI in a flow which requires reliable results. I don't think people who are used to determinism have coped with that.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Software quality assurance can be automated in a way that artistic and textual quality can't. A lot of companies are creating AI assistants which take otherwise deterministic processes and makes them nondeterministic. For example, I work in financial services and deal with a lot of data vendors. One of the big ones very recently added a chatbot to their UI, which on the second question I asked, provided entirely in…
Yeah, this is not a good use of AI and the customer service people are going to gradually work that out, especially once people start having the "you know this is a legally binding statement on behalf of your company, right" discussion. You can't put an AI in a flow which requires reliable results. I don't think people who are used to determinism have coped with that.
The problem is .. what flows don't need determinism? Search results / recommendation engine / ad targeting ?
Arguably the majority of companies & corporate users are using these tools in cases they expect determinism. Email inbox summaries. Search summaries. What is the value of x queries. You'd be shocked.
My favorite Google AI summary bug/quirk that seems to persist (I just tested it again) - "are Lillies OK for cats". The summary starts with "Yes, lilies are extremely toxic to cats. "
I first hit this with another plant (lavender) where the response was much longer and on an iPhone looked like this:
Yes, lavender (both the plant and its essential oils) [line break]
is considered toxic to cats.
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I am a backend dev, and building a mobile app for the first time, It is a toy sized project right now and it works, would have indeed taken me 5x the time to get to that point on my own. I know from experience that to make it a non-toy project I am probably going to need to spend some, if not most of that saved time cleaning up in the future due to technical debt. For backend, it is mildly useful at best, helpful wit…
AI is an extremely powerful weapon against a blank page. It's much easier to take "well now I have an app, which after using for a bit I find it sucks in " and then fix them, than it is to start from absolutely nothing.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
You suspect Paul Krugman and the rest of the lay public is familiar with this?
It is our job to educate our friends and family Otherwise they are going to get bad notions from people like Krugman
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#120>> You can’t say, hey, all white-collar jobs are gone and this could even be a weapon and we will use all the power to build data centers.
"You can’t say..." Is that being unwilling to engage, or just being unwilling to say the quiet part loud?