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Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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> The workers are longtime contributors and organisers, and are deeply committed to the Wikimedia movement. It always starts this way, and ends with over half the people not bothered but still under union protection, and cannot be removed.

Ahhh the American mindset.

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

#72
post #56

There is no reason for any employee to not search for unionization. It is your right and it is in your best interest. Good for them.

Do you think trolls should have a right to unionize? We are working really hard, but conditions are not best. For start we demand salary from local goverment (I am in EU)! Nobody should be forced to work for free!

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

#73
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's bleak it seems like wikimedia is controlled by the same ghouls who are running Mozilla. Why is it so hard to keep a public interest tech firm honest?

Power, status, and control attract the same personalities, regardless of entity type.

As a union member you have a say over that.

Imagine if Mozilla's bosses were accountable to the developers

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

#74
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes we all know unions take at least 99% of your salary…

Did I ever claim that? Its 1% of my montly gross salary which is about 40€/month which is just too much given I have 2.500€/month to survive with.

Have you evaluated how much better bargaining power that €40 would get you? You might stand to make a lot more back.

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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post #56

There is no reason for any employee to not search for unionization. It is your right and it is in your best interest. Good for them.

It may or may not be in any individual's best interest.

For example, look at "bumping rights". If a company needs to eliminate a union position, and this is occupied by someone with say 20 years seniority, that person can "bump" some other union member out of their position who has a lower seniority. So, that person whose role was eliminated can push a person with only 5 years seniority out of their position. And then that person with 5 years seniority can bump a person with only one year seniority out of their position. And the person with 1 year seniority has no one newer than them so they get laid off.

Was it in the best interest of that newish employee to be part of a union? So they can act as a meat shield for someone much further in their career who would theoretically be much more employable in the general market?

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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post #56

There is no reason for any employee to not search for unionization. It is your right and it is in your best interest. Good for them.

I work in a 2 man company, for sure a Union will have many advantages for me x)

I'm a director of my small company, and a member of UTAW. The union doesn't just help with employment disputes but also campaigns generally on improving working conditions for all, through things like health and safety and setting reasonable expectations for how work will be done.

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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post #56

There is no reason for any employee to not search for unionization. It is your right and it is in your best interest. Good for them.

It may or may not be in any individual's best interest. For example, look at "bumping rights". If a company needs to eliminate a union position, and this is occupied by someone with say 20 years seniority, that person can "bump" some other union member out of their position who has a lower seniority. So, that person whose role was eliminated can push a person with only 5 years seniority out of their position. And the…

The wikipedia atricle only cites american sources so that may be something unique to how US unions operate.
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