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Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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post #56

There is no reason for any employee to not search for unionization. It is your right and it is in your best interest. Good for them.

I work in a 2 man company, for sure a Union will have many advantages for me x)

Are you just an employee or also an owner in that company? If you are an employee only, having a union to back you up could be extremely useful if things ever go bad.

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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post #56

There is no reason for any employee to not search for unionization. It is your right and it is in your best interest. Good for them.

I work in a 2 man company, for sure a Union will have many advantages for me x)

Yes, a union is a way to gather forces, not only in your company, but also in broader spaces. It's easier for a union (even of two) to ask to meet your local elected officials, to seek legal support, advices from other union.

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in a 2 man company, for sure a Union will have many advantages for me x)

Are you just an employee or also an owner in that company? If you are an employee only, having a union to back you up could be extremely useful if things ever go bad.

Only employee. Joining an union is too expensive for me though given the reward seems pretty small. My industry does not even have a proper union (in Germany) so I'd have to join a generic one (verdi) which doesn't offer enough perks for me personally.

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

#64
post #18

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Unionization shouldn't be seen as an emergency measure. Even if I would hypothetically accept union as a last resort, which I don't, safety nets should be built not only when you are speeding towards the ground, and often lack the resources, but much before that, when you are safe.

> safety nets should be built not only when you are speeding towards the ground, and often lack the resources, but much before that, when you are safe Safety nets cost time and resources to build and come at the cost of agility. They shouldn’t be avoided at all costs. But a foundation in an industry where unions aren’t the norm taking that step can correctly be interpreted as a sign management fucked up. Given the fo…

Unions are a normal thing to happen to guarantee a check of balances, we are used to systems they have their feedback loop, if you have a one sided relationship you cannot have balance because one side will always try to push in their direction.

The tug between management and unions is the balance.

If you consider that safety is something that is impeding, you have never truly worked at scale nor considered what happens when accident happens, safety is to ensure continuous, painless operation, not impede it and is a baseline condition for trust which is essential to move fast.

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you just an employee or also an owner in that company? If you are an employee only, having a union to back you up could be extremely useful if things ever go bad.

Only employee. Joining an union is too expensive for me though given the reward seems pretty small. My industry does not even have a proper union (in Germany) so I'd have to join a generic one (verdi) which doesn't offer enough perks for me personally.

Ah yes we all know unions take at least 99% of your salary…

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

#68
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unionization shouldn't be seen as an emergency measure. Even if I would hypothetically accept union as a last resort, which I don't, safety nets should be built not only when you are speeding towards the ground, and often lack the resources, but much before that, when you are safe.

> safety nets should be built not only when you are speeding towards the ground, and often lack the resources, but much before that, when you are safe Safety nets cost time and resources to build and come at the cost of agility. They shouldn’t be avoided at all costs. But a foundation in an industry where unions aren’t the norm taking that step can correctly be interpreted as a sign management fucked up. Given the fo…

Or it can be seen as a sign of an industry that's maturing

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only employee. Joining an union is too expensive for me though given the reward seems pretty small. My industry does not even have a proper union (in Germany) so I'd have to join a generic one (verdi) which doesn't offer enough perks for me personally.

Ah yes we all know unions take at least 99% of your salary…

Did I ever claim that? Its 1% of my montly gross salary which is about 40€/month which is just too much given I have 2.500€/month to survive with.

Re: Wikipedia Workers to Seek Union Recognition

#70
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in a 2 man company, for sure a Union will have many advantages for me x)

Aside from legal support, advice, and contributing to industry influence?

What have the Romans ever done for us?
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