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Post by UltraSane »

tovej wrote: post #462
UltraSane wrote: post #450

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So all Zionists are Nazis?

Zionism and Nazism are very similar. It's true that Nazism lacks the religious aspect, and Zionism lacks the pagan aspect. I hope you can agree that these are aesthetic differences. Both movements advocate for one ethnicity having the right to live on a particular part of the land, ime. ethonationalism (Nazis: "Blood and soil" vs. Zios: "The chosen people who god promised the land to"), both movements are expansionis…

Arabs make up 20% of the population of Israel. You people always lie about Israel. Hamas and Iran and Hezbollah want to destroy Israel in the name of Islam so only Muslims can live on the land. You people always ignore that.

Re: Noam Shazeer Joins OpenAI

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Post by tmule »

UltraSane wrote: post #443
tmule wrote: post #407

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Don’t wrestle with pigs or argue with Zionists about Israel (though the former will at least avoid accusing you of things you’re not).

So Zionists are pigs?

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit; personally have a preference for pigs since they’re benign and good-natured creatures.

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Post by tovej »

dlubarov wrote: post #465
tovej wrote: post #459

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That's not true, it's not a majority. It is true that Mizrahi are ~40-45% of Jews in the country, but all Mizrahim are not all indigenous to Palestine. I was referring to the subset of Mizrahi who are Palestinian.

What do you mean by “Palestinian”? They’re Palestinian by the classic definition of “those who live in the region of Palestine”. If you mean citizens of the State of Palestine, that’s a political matter, and zero Jews have that citizenship. If you mean something along the lines of “unbroken lineage of ancestors who never left Palestine", that would also exclude many people who we all consider Palestinian, such as Ara…

By Palestinian Mizrahi, I mean Mizrahi who are culturally Palestinian. Who have some ties to Palestine. Someone you could call native.

Re: Noam Shazeer Joins OpenAI

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Post by tovej »

UltraSane wrote: post #470
tovej wrote: post #460

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The left? The left is against Israeli violence. The far right hates Jews. Let's compare figures like, say Nick Fuentes and Hasan Piker. Fuentes regularly spouts vile anti-semitic rhetoric, painting up a picture of Jews as greedy schemers. Piker always makes it clear he is talking about Israel, not Jews. Painfully so. I have not seen a single self-odentified leftist say anything anti-semitic IRL. But I have seen right…

Hasan Piker is a very bad example because he supports the Houthi, and the Houthi are VERY anti-semitc, their flag literally curses ALL jews "God is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse be upon the Jews, Victory to Islam"

Ah, yes. So if Piker, when looking at the Houthi/Israel dichotomy, is more sympathetic to the Houthis, that means he adopts all of their positions?

That doesn't follow. Not even a little bit.

Re: Noam Shazeer Joins OpenAI

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Post by tovej »

UltraSane wrote: post #471
tovej wrote: post #462

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zionism and Nazism are very similar. It's true that Nazism lacks the religious aspect, and Zionism lacks the pagan aspect. I hope you can agree that these are aesthetic differences. Both movements advocate for one ethnicity having the right to live on a particular part of the land, ime. ethonationalism (Nazis: "Blood and soil" vs. Zios: "The chosen people who god promised the land to"), both movements are expansionis…

Arabs make up 20% of the population of Israel. You people always lie about Israel. Hamas and Iran and Hezbollah want to destroy Israel in the name of Islam so only Muslims can live on the land. You people always ignore that.

"You people"? Is your paranoia getting to you?

20% is an interesting number, though. The percentage of Palestinians who were Arabs in 1918 was around 90%. I wonder if that might have something to do with why the Arabs are upset?

Oh right, Israel _has_ destroyed nearly all the entire Arab society that lived in Palestine. As opposed to your claim that "Hamas and Iran and Hezbollah _want_ to destroy Israel in the name of Islam".

You think a hypothetical backlash to an ethnic cleansing is worse than the ethnic cleansing itself?

It seems you're the one who seems to be ignoring the factual crimes against humanity that Israel commits, and only care about imagined ones that Israel would be victim to.

Re: Noam Shazeer Joins OpenAI

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Post by dlubarov »

tovej wrote: post #474
dlubarov wrote: post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by “Palestinian”? They’re Palestinian by the classic definition of “those who live in the region of Palestine”. If you mean citizens of the State of Palestine, that’s a political matter, and zero Jews have that citizenship. If you mean something along the lines of “unbroken lineage of ancestors who never left Palestine", that would also exclude many people who we all consider Palestinian, such as Ara…

By Palestinian Mizrahi, I mean Mizrahi who are culturally Palestinian. Who have some ties to Palestine. Someone you could call native.

Any Jew certainly has cultural ties to Palestine, if we're talking about the region rather than the modern national identity with the same name.
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