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Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by jcgrillo »

andsoitis wrote: post #187
jcgrillo wrote: post #149

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I'm old too, it isn't about that. He's desperately trying to guilt young people into glomming onto his profoundly uncool thing by playing on some ancient "digital native" trope. It's, well, some boomer type shit.

I suppose you likewise think of Sam A, Dario A, and Dennis H, as boomers because they're signaling the same, just not being as direct.

As far as I'm aware they never explicitly kicked the generational hornets' nest, but I'm not a scholar of AI goober drivel

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Post by intended »

mahoho wrote: post #148
alpineman wrote: post #98

>> “I’ve been thinking about writing an essay on the kind of mistakes that are made by college graduates booing or otherwise dissing AI,” he said. As if speaking to all of Gen Z, he added: “You guys have the opportunity to be generation AI—where you come into the workforce saying, ‘I know this a lot better than all of you" Quite patronising. Maybe they really do know it a lot better than you, Reid, but not in the way…

It's time to give up your silly cynicism, embrace being a professional slop shoveler and doing work with higher volume, more repetition and less creativity than ever.

The slip mines need more PhD labour to label stuff - that’s your future and you better learn to love it.

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Post by bckr »

petilon wrote: post #115
buellerbueller wrote: post #112

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Companies lie.

Yes, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to them. You listen to them and you evaluate their claims.

“Listen” is being used in a non-literal way here, with the meaning “to accept as true”.

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Post by youngtaff »

epistasis wrote: post #66
giancarlostoro wrote: post #37

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I'm not interested in people's take on SpaceX this early after their IPO, they have an ambitious vision and Elon Musk gets a lot of blind hatred. You don't invest into SpaceX to see returns in a month, you're in it for the next five or more years or you're better off finding a different stock to invest in. To date SpaceX is the top leader in getting things into space for the lowest cost, everyone else pales in compar…

People don't invest in SpaceX because of space launch capability, that barely counts for their valuation at all. The valuation of SpaceX is due to AI, namely the revenue they get for renting out their GPUs to companies that actually have AI customers, as their own AI tech has not panned out. For the large number of companies rolled into SpaceX, they are all failed attempts to grow large enough to justify their valuat…

> The valuation of SpaceX is due to AI, namely the revenue they get for renting out their GPUs to companies that actually have AI customers, as their own AI tech has not panned out.

Renting them out for 90 days!

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Post by bobson381 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #185
bobson381 wrote: post #119

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This is largely escapism because the current paradigm of growth is ending, rather messily. The definition of living well is going through a forced change, and adjusting is hard.

> the current paradigm of growth is ending, rather messily There is zero evidence for this time being different. Instead, there is evidence of zombie leverage and corruption coming home to roost while the global growth engine shifts towards China.

it is the first time we have harnessed all of the energy on the planet at once to power a single interconnected advanced system across continents. Mostly I'm drawing from a thermodynamics outlook[0]. previous collapses had unused high quality energy in other areas to fall back on. I'd love to read more about the growth towards China being sustainable in that sense.

[0] https://youtu.be/5WPB2u8EzL8?si=doERoIYuYZYHLAAZ

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Post by bckr »

llm_nerd wrote: post #191
DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #163

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XAI is very relevant. They have one of the best video models, they own cursor which has a good percent of the coding market. Anthropic runs thier ai on xai’s data centers. Saying they aren’t relevant is comical

>They have one of the best video models In porn and deepfakes. Yeah, they should be regulated to obliteration. >they own cursor which has a good percent of the coding market They don't own cursor. They announced an acquisition immediately after the insane SPCX valuation to desperately scrabble to lock in some of that laughably nonsensical hype valuation (as the entire US equities market has become firmly detached fro…

> Cursor is declining

Yep. I switched to Zed over the weekend and I’m very happy so far. It’s snappy.

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Post by buellerbueller »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #139
buellerbueller wrote: post #134

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Companies exist to influence others.

What do you think anyone talking to the press or commenting on social media is up to?

Every company exists to get money; it is literally their lifeblood.

Not every human on social media or talking to the press is trying to influence others in a survival situation. Go touch grass.

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Post by youngtaff »

trollbridge wrote: post #47

Seems very relevant that SpaceX’s primary AI offerings are: - Cursor - Lots of data centre capacity being rented to Anthropic and Google and others That seems very much like being an AI company.

They’re not long term contract though… some might only be 90days

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Post by pydry »

epistasis wrote: post #194
lp4v4n wrote: post #174

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He is just being solipsistic and talking to a small circle of wealthy and well-connected Gen Zs that he probably knows in real life or who are part of his acquaintances. Or do you really think that people with his level of wealth remotely care about real career paths for the average youth?

I don't know anybody with Hoffman's level of wealth, but I have come across a fair number of people with close to a billion dollars of wealth that now split their time between enjoying time with their own family and then trying to pursue philanthropy and non-profits meant to improve everybody's life in the community. I run into them because of their attempts to improve the community. And there are those who do it sup…

Ive also run into a few and they were without question some of the biggest assholes I ever met in my life.

I don't think theyre special. Years of being surrounded by yes men and sycophants will probably do that to most people.

One of them in particular was much less toxic and relatable pre-billions.

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