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Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by maxcb »

AJRF wrote: post #29
otterley wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the article said, Reid Hoffman is on Microsoft’s board and is an investor both in OpenAI and Anthropic.

I read the article - and many articles touting what Reid said - but my question remains - why in the name of god is he relevant. He is connected and gives money to people - why should that mean anyone should listen to him about any of this. He's not actually a do-er is he? Is there something I am missing? The amount of coverage he gets seems massively disproportionate to his skill, talent and insight.

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Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

AJRF wrote: post #20

How is Reid Hoffman relevant? Someone like Elon being asked for their opinion on tech - I kind of understand - was at least at the coal face of SpaceX and Tesla for a time, seemed to understand the tech and was not terrible when it came to direction. Zuck I'd get, Bezos, Dario, Sam - but I don't actually get why Reid is always in the conversation - he's never been in front of anything

> How is Reid Hoffman relevant?

What does this actually mean? I’ve always taken this use of relevance as an influencer metric.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by andsoitis »

jcgrillo wrote: post #129
alpineman wrote: post #98

>> “I’ve been thinking about writing an essay on the kind of mistakes that are made by college graduates booing or otherwise dissing AI,” he said. As if speaking to all of Gen Z, he added: “You guys have the opportunity to be generation AI—where you come into the workforce saying, ‘I know this a lot better than all of you" Quite patronising. Maybe they really do know it a lot better than you, Reid, but not in the way…

Such an out of touch attempt to get the youths onboard the hype train.. ok boomer.

> ok boomer.

Reid Hoffman is not a boomer. He was born in 1967. Also: ageism isn't sexy.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by jedimastert »

drunner wrote: post #116
vonneumannstan wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Did we blame the kids for smoking back in the day too, or recognize the harm and regulate it out of their lives?

Fair, the youths very much much get blamed for smoking and gambling back in the day as well. Sort of pivotal to the story of Pinocchio, for example

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #109
trollbridge wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that’s a pretty inappropriate comparison and you should withdraw it. Please edit your post?

The faux outrage is odd.

> faux outrage

Less faux than a bit silly. Their outrage isn’t fake. It’s just misplaced.

The comparison doesn’t work because the KKK’s violent racism isn’t comparable to commercial competition and the relatively-polite quibbles of two San Francisco billionaires. That’s less insulting than just wrong.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by tantalor »

petilon wrote: post #111
tripledry wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not commenting on Reid specifically but on the other hand I don't understand why we should listen to the Tech CEO's / Founders about their opinions on the tech they are selling .

Why wouldn't you listen to a company on why their product solves the problem you're having?

Since you're not picking up on a social subtext, "we should not listen to them" here means "don't be influenced by them" or "don't take their words as granted". In other words, we should be skeptical, not literally shut them out.

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Post by [deleted] »

kklisura wrote: post #99
andsoitis wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are either datacenter company or an AI company - but it cannot be both. why not?

Either you are in need of as much as compute as possible since you're building frontier AI models or you're not and you're just renting out the compute. And let's face it - Grok, if not failure, is just a toy.

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Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by mahoho »

alpineman wrote: post #98

>> “I’ve been thinking about writing an essay on the kind of mistakes that are made by college graduates booing or otherwise dissing AI,” he said. As if speaking to all of Gen Z, he added: “You guys have the opportunity to be generation AI—where you come into the workforce saying, ‘I know this a lot better than all of you" Quite patronising. Maybe they really do know it a lot better than you, Reid, but not in the way…

It's time to give up your silly cynicism, embrace being a professional slop shoveler and doing work with higher volume, more repetition and less creativity than ever.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by jcgrillo »

andsoitis wrote: post #143
jcgrillo wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such an out of touch attempt to get the youths onboard the hype train.. ok boomer.

> ok boomer. Reid Hoffman is not a boomer. He was born in 1967. Also: ageism isn't sexy.

I'm old too, it isn't about that. He's desperately trying to guilt young people into glomming onto his profoundly uncool thing by playing on some ancient "digital native" trope. It's, well, some boomer type shit.

Re: Reid Hoffman says SpaceX 'not an AI company', xAI 'complete train wreck'

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Post by jklinger410 »

ryno364 wrote: post #19

Reid Hoffman hates Musk. Think what you will of Musk (we all have our opinions), but Hoffman criticizing one of Musks companies is the equivalent of Steve Jobs criticizing Windows. Its a personal quibble and therefore not really news worthy.

This is like the guy at Techdirt writing another article about how dumb Elon is.
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