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Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by losvedir »

FireInsight wrote: post #154
JdeBP wrote: post #85

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If, as there, one swipe gesture per letter is allowable, rather than a gesture encompassing a whole word, then things like Thumb-Key become options. * https://github.com/dessalines/thumb-key It has a similar sort of ' It doesn't have to have 26 keys on something the size and shape of a mobile 'phone. ' thinking as 8vim has, whilst raising a good ' You know 'phones worked fine with a 3 by 4 grid for 60 years, ne? ' po…

Thumb-Key is awesome and I can't live without it. Clearflow sounds promising too, but I have to be able to write my,, repeated symbols and >:) smiley faces with the same speed and finesse as words (not having to thing about it at all).

But why would you want to? Pro-tip, I guess, ",," is normal in German and maybe other languages as a method of quoting, but it looks bizarre in English.

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Post by a022311 »

sholladay wrote: post #109

This keyboard seems to ship with a dictionary that includes a lot of curse words. No more ducking around.

I can't see what's wrong with that (you choose whether to accept suggestions or not), but you can always blacklist predictions by long-pressing on them.

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Post by killerstorm »

gblargg wrote: post #54

Voice dictation is so much better than GBoard, which I've been using until now. It capitalizes and punctuates sentences without me needing to, and got several sentences perfect without any post-editing needed, and it's all a local model. The one downside is no real-time update, just batch conversion once you're done talking. Looks like they've fixed the swipe backspace and spacebar to not be over-sensitive like it wa…

I'm actually surprised with how bad is Google's voice recognition - with all their immense compute resources, R&D, owning Android, etc, what prevents them from having SotA voice recognition?.. Even "it's not a priority" argument doesn't work as they are pushing Gemini assistant. (ChatGPT app works so much better.)

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Post by me-vs-cat »

soco wrote: post #194
deepsquirrelnet wrote: post #83

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> Because I love swiping, but all my problems with it come from the fact that the QWERTY layout is far from ideal for it. I am 100% willing to learn a new layout if anyone will develop an optimal one for English so that swiping has a 99.9% accuracy rate instead of what currently feels more like 90% or 95%. 90-95% is a very good estimate! That's about what we measure on our test set. I have good news for you, and we w…

How about context. We have these not-so-new gadgets made by design to predict the next word, I mean those LLMs... a local tiny model should be able to beat those dumb GBoard predictions any time (and a note for Google: if GBoard uses already such a local predictor, just throw it away, it's garbage)

From https://swipe.futo.tech/:

The ContextLM model is a very small language model that is trained for a single language. It's used to improve the quality of predictions by eliminating nonsensical words given the preceding words in the sentence. It only requires text data for training.

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Post by backscratches »

pmontra wrote: post #209
backscratches wrote: post #165

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Heliboard has had great swipe for a while and has two finger swipe which is killer feature

I'll look for a video. I like swyping because I can hold the phone in one hand and swipe with the thumb. The other hand is free. Two finger swiping would negate that advantage but maybe it opens up other usage scenarios.

Its optional! One finger swipe on heliboard works at least as well as gboard or this futo one.

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Post by artisin »

FUTO has gone from tolerable to pretty great over the past year-ish. Sure, the (english) auto-completion still may not be the "best," but I generally find it better than my iPad auto-completion. Thou, my fav-features are pretty simple: the ability to pin dedicated action buttons like undo/redo/select-all, and direct control over my clipboard history. The clipboard does come with hard max limits of 100 items and 336 hours, but since FUTO is open-source, all one has to do is clone, patch, compile, and voila, unlimited clipboard history! And they say dreams don't come true.

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Post by [deleted] »

helenite wrote: post #197
ggeorgovassilis wrote: post #192

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If you don't mind, how do I get ClearFlow in gboard? GBoard on Android only has language selections, not keyboard selections.

There's a section [1] on the page that has instructions, and video [2] too. I had to select the English (US) language to get the option to select ClearFlow. [1]: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/#section_activate [2]: https://youtu.be/rSfbvE9cEKE?si=NbJC93sTiOHqw4lX

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Post by snthpy »

ggeorgovassilis wrote: post #208
helenite wrote: post #197

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There's a section [1] on the page that has instructions, and video [2] too. I had to select the English (US) language to get the option to select ClearFlow. [1]: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/#section_activate [2]: https://youtu.be/rSfbvE9cEKE?si=NbJC93sTiOHqw4lX

Thanks. It's available only for the US layout, not UK. I'm writing down a few impressions: - the layout is unusual, but I get the motivation. Distances are minimised and letters are arranged so that ambiguity is removed. - although I'm very slow, I haven't made a single mistake so far. Clearflow allows me to swipe much more accurately than stock gboard. - the square keyboard layout unfortunately means that half the l…

Hi, Yes I'm in the same boat as you - had to switch to US language instead of UK. I've been addiing the anglisised versions of words to my dictionary as I go along so it's becoming less of an issue over time. Maybe I'll switch to FUTO in order to not have to deal with this anymore. Gboard has one nice feature though in that I have multiple languages enabled so I get correct predictive completion in non-English languages.

For learning ClearFlow, I used the Games app available from the "Clearflow Games" section on their website: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/

I also have the issue of the thumb getting in the way so I spent a couple of days playing the games to get my layout memory up and then it became usable without frustration and I'm not looking back now although I occasionally still forget the odd letter location.

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Post by notpushkin »

ForHackernews wrote: post #191
RobotToaster wrote: post #179

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> They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it. They prohibit you from removing the constant nags about buying a licence.

I know a way you could remove those nags.

I know two:

1. Paying and clicking “I paid”

2. Not paying and still clicking “I paid”

So it’s an honour system right now.

That said, if they ever implement e.g. license keys or some other mean of actually checking that you’ve paid, seems that you would be able to remove it and recompile, you just can’t help others do that:

> Notwithstanding the above, you may not remove or obscure any functionality in the software related to payment to the Licensor in any copy you distribute to others.

(IANAL)

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Post by tgtweak »

swype was so good before it got destroyed by Nuance. Gboard's own swipe to type is decent but missing a lot of those features that made swype so much better (swipe once backwards to erase the previous word, loop a letter to double it, swipe up to the suggested word to select it, correct a previous word with the next few words context...)
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