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Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by cadamsdotcom »

TZubiri wrote: post #34

I'll be the contrarian here. I think the program was legal and morally fine. Take into account that these are corporate computers, and the tracking is of work that the company is paying for, so the telemetry, which is highly valuable for analysis and automation, is rightfully theirs. I also don't think that the purpose of the move was to manage workers and see if they slack off, it was to gather training data, but ev…

Hats off to you for sticking your neck out. Regardless if I agree, or anyone agrees - it is great to see a willing contrarian.

To all outraged HN readers considering a downvote:

Downvote is for non-constructive comments, not stuff you disagree with.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by hparadiz »

arkh wrote: post #125
lend000 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even the original idea (if The Social Network is a trustworthy source) was copied -- Zuckerberg just has a complete lack of vision, but is clearly an intelligent operator with good business sense. Jagged intelligence, like an LLM.

In 2001 France had Copains d'avant https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copains_d%27avant for school based networking. So not a new idea

Lol I was working on a social network site when FB came out and there were many sites like it (MySpace). Some of them even still exist like VK.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by onion2k »

digitaltrees wrote: post #95
haunter wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can't think of a single product of theirs that hasn't made the world a markedly worse place zstd I’m torn about React and PyTorch :)

React made front end suck. Sorry.

React definitely didn't make frontend _great_ in a lot of cases, but jQuery, mootools, prototype, knockout, ember, angular, and a whole lot more JS frameworks that have come and gone predate React. If React hadn't been invented there'd be just as many poorly developed browser apps as there are today. You can't really pin that on React.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by kortilla »

weedfroglozenge wrote: post #96
ldng wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me guess, because you, yourself, are not an employee so you don't mind because it does not apply to you ?

I am an employee. I'm also an employee who wouldn't mind if all my key strokes were logged, my movements around the building tracked, and any work calls taken recorded. When I'm at work, I'm working. The above type of monitoring would really highlight those of you conducting "wage theft". And you're all getting angry at it. I don't understand. If you focus on work during your work hours, you have nothing to hide.

You don’t know what wage theft is. It’s not something an employee does.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #131
TZubiri wrote: post #34

I'll be the contrarian here. I think the program was legal and morally fine. Take into account that these are corporate computers, and the tracking is of work that the company is paying for, so the telemetry, which is highly valuable for analysis and automation, is rightfully theirs. I also don't think that the purpose of the move was to manage workers and see if they slack off, it was to gather training data, but ev…

Hats off to you for sticking your neck out. Regardless if I agree, or anyone agrees - it is great to see a willing contrarian. To all outraged HN readers considering a downvote: Downvote is for non-constructive comments , not stuff you disagree with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43560543

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by hparadiz »

intended wrote: post #118
lnsru wrote: post #114

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What you ignore is the thing that with meta’s salary you can retire in 10 years back to Europe. With silly wages in Germany you can retire on your 75th birthday. Feel the difference? Germany’s economy is stagnating, there will be no higher salaries anymore. Just higher taxes. If I were younger I would pick SF and hordes of homeless over declining Germany. If you follow political discussions it will not get better: pl…

But you would have gotten to live in Germany for those ten years. SF and Meta make sense if you are going to try to be the cutting edge of conversations and tech. If you just want to live your life?

I have family there and have stayed with them for several weeks at a time. Why do you think Germany is automatically better?

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by adamors »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #84
whateveracct wrote: post #63

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i have like 5 companies in my rolodex who would hire me to be fully remote tomorrow get with the times

There's some kind of irony using outdated terminology like "rolodex" and telling someone else to get with the times. :)

It’s almost as if they were making a joke.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by hparadiz »

lostglass wrote: post #105
mdavid626 wrote: post #104

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Crying in Germany with 60-85k average SW engineer salary.

Hey, if you can handle a dystopian Kafka inspired shit show all major tech companies have an office in Berlin.

How? Any world wide company will have local offices for local operations. They are big enough that they have whole data centers there. Of course they'll hire some locals.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by archerx »

onion2k wrote: post #133
digitaltrees wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

React made front end suck. Sorry.

React definitely didn't make frontend _great_ in a lot of cases, but jQuery, mootools, prototype, knockout, ember, angular, and a whole lot more JS frameworks that have come and gone predate React. If React hadn't been invented there'd be just as many poorly developed browser apps as there are today. You can't really pin that on React.

What I can pin on react is that it is very inefficient with resources using much more cpu power than needed to render some text and images on a webpage. Imagine all the electricity that was wasted because of react and the negative impact on the environment it has had because of that.
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